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  • #135574

    02062
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    Patriots are paying for Josh Gordon’s treatment? That can’t be right.

    Cap violation – 3 1st rounders please

    #135577

    Lebron
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    I want to tear the throats of people that refer to Anthony Davis as ‘Brow’

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    #135578

    Coma
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    I went to see the “Four Games in Fall” movie last night. I was predisposed to like the film (it’s about Brady getting railroaded in deflategate) and was prepared to agree with it’s premise and conclusions, but I thought everything (pacing, content, topics, interviewees) was very well done. There were about 40 other people in the theater, which was 35 more than I was expecting. If you followed the story, there was probably nothing new in there, but it was nice to see everything from the original accusation to the federal cases addressed in one place. Something that the movie drove home was that, from the start, Brady and the Patriots were a step behind the league. The NFL controlled the story from the start, so they were always at a disadvantage. As far as potential negatives, Thornton is part of the film as the “voice of the fan.” They would have Robert Blecker, Michael McCann, or John Leonard make some point and cut to Thornton, who would try and it put in plain language. He wasn’t trying to be funny and wasn’t bailing on the team because they lost a game in September, so he did a good job in his role. Shank also makes a cameo appearance. He’s shown asking a question at a press conference, but there’s no audio for him and he’s not identified. He’s on screen long just enough for you to boo him.

    After the movie, there was a panel discussion with Julie Marron (the director), the producer, Andrew Wilson (a professor who was interviewed in the film) and the Patriots’ attorney, Dan Goldberg. Marron, who said she wasn’t a football fan, said that one of the factors that motivated her to make the movie was listening to deflategate being discussed on sports talk radio in 2015. She’s from RI, so EEI and 98.5 drove someone to make a movie correcting the terrible narrative they were pushing. That’s a nice twist because there are several examples of people who hate the Patriots deciding to write books based on the coverage their “scandals” received.

    Goldberg also said a couple of interesting things. One, that I’m pretty sure was also mentioned in the film, was that Brady believed that, by testifying under oath at the appeal hearing, Goodell would take that into account and come around to the fact that nothing happened. Brady thought he could reach Goodell on a personal level, but he clearly had too high of an opinion of Roger (the last part is my interpretation, not Goldberg’s.)

    The second story was not brought up in the film. Goldberg said that, when the Wells Report was complete, Ted Wells called him and asked if he would like to come to NY and read it. I forget the exact timeline, but it was something like, Wells called on a Tuesday and the report was going to be released on Thursday morning. Goldberg goes to Wells’ office on Wednesday to read the report. The conditions are that he can’t take any notes, make any copies or take any pictures. There is a paralegal in the room to make sure he’s just reading the report and nothing more. (As an aside, Goldberg also said that, when the league finally shared the actual PSI numbers with him, they originally forbade him from telling Kraft what the numbers were. They relaxed that to no one outside the Patriots being allowed to know.) When Goldberg is done, he calls Brady to let him know what the report says and what to expect the next day. He said that, after getting the news, there was a pause, and then Brady said something like “I know what happened and what didn’t happen and I can’t control what other people are going to think.” He concluded by saying that the Tom Brady you see in interviews is the real Brady. That’s not a public facade and the real guy behind the scenes is a jerk or brooding or egotistical. The public Brady is the real deal.

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    #135579

    Yahtzee
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    Interesting post, Coma. Thanks.

    #135582

    Yahtzee
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    Run to your radio … EEI has Tomase and Reimer on tonight. The 3 minutes I heard were as expected.

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    #135583

    02062
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    “Water animals and birds, it’s not really on land and they can fly and they can swim – it’s not really my element.”

    ”Had a run in with some seagulls, I was with my friend Jessie.  I’ll never forget it, it was crazy.”

    Aqib can’t remember the circumstances which led to him being shot but he remembers a run in with a seagull.

    i miss that crazy bastard.

    #135584

    Miserable Fellow
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    Thanks, Coma. I didn’t know there was such a film but I’m glad that there is and it seems so well put together. I always thought Deflategate should be a season of Serial.

    I don’t know after Spygate how Brady could be so naive about Goodell that he thought there was a chance that Goodell could be swayed by actual logic. Goodell’s either a terrible dick or a weakling doing the bidding of terrible dicks in the other owners.

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    #135585

    Kingasaurus
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    Goldberg also said a couple of interesting things. One, that I’m pretty sure was also mentioned in the film, was that Brady believed that, by testifying under oath at the appeal hearing, Goodell would take that into account and come around to the fact that nothing happened. Brady thought he could reach Goodell on a personal level, but he clearly had too high of an opinion of Roger (the last part is my interpretation, not Goldberg’s.)

    I think Brady eventually realized the kind of slimy agenda-ridden people he was dealing with, and that the question of his innocence didn’t matter. It was just a weapon to punish. The justness or un-justness of the weapon didn’t matter to the people who wanted to use it. At some point in interviews he started saying that larger forces were at work at that it really “wasn’t about me”.

     

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    #135586

    thatsnotwhatisaid
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    The Globe is mixing up their hitpiece during Superbowl week approach with a special episode of the Hernandez podcast focused on injury and opioid abuse in the NFL featuring Ryan O’Callaghan and Brandon Lloyd!

    Happy SB week everyone!

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    #135589

    Claude45
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    Thanks, Coma. I didn’t know there was such a film but I’m glad that there is and it seems so well put together. I always thought Deflategate should be a season of Serial.

    I don’t know after Spygate how Brady could be so naive about Goodell that he thought there was a chance that Goodell could be swayed by actual logic. Goodell’s either a terrible dick or a weakling doing the bidding of terrible dicks in the other owners.

    He can be both and he is both.

    #135590

    Suzy
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    Thanks, Coma. I didn’t know there was such a film but I’m glad that there is and it seems so well put together. I always thought Deflategate should be a season of Serial.

    I don’t know after Spygate how Brady could be so naive about Goodell that he thought there was a chance that Goodell could be swayed by actual logic. Goodell’s either a terrible dick or a weakling doing the bidding of terrible dicks in the other owners.

    Goodell is both things you describe.

    Brady is a decent & honest man who assumed basic decency and honesty were traits he could appeal to in others (on which point, as we all know, he was sadly dead wrong). Tough lesson but I don’t think he’ll ever change (thankfully) nor will they. He is and will remain good and they will always be rotten to the fucking core.

    #135591

    Claude45
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    So with Devin McCourty contemplating retirement, he will be the next guy the media has told me for years has been a disappointment but now, it’s doom and gloom if he steps away.

    Media view. Part of the ongoing Rutgers punchline. Was drafted in the first round and mocked as a “4 down player, a special teamer”. Had a great rookie season at corner then failed his way into safety. Was overpaid in his last contract by the otherwise cheap Pats not for ability/performance because Belichick loves him and he’s a Pats suck up. If you ever said he was one the best safeties in the league, the media would mock you mercilessly.

    But now, “how do you replace a Devin McCourty? you can’t” will be the order of the day.

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    #135592

    jforb
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    That video at the end of Bedard’s daily thing is as creepy as I think it is, right? The taking of it, not the content.

    #135594

    Claude45
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    It stunning to me how adding meaningless, boring and irrelevant details/humblebrags/brags to a story really makes Petey King feel like he’s delivering gold.  The most tedious man in the world……

    In some interview he’s describing how he starts his day (the best way to start the day on case you’re wondering) “..and sit down, with shredded wheat, and blueberries….” On and on and on and on.

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    #135597

    02062
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    “The most tedious man in the world.”

    Stay thirsty for a foamy choclatelty latte my friend.

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    #135598

    jforb
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    #135599

    Lebron
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    That McCourty comment about possible retirement if they win bummed me out.  I get it, and it makes sense.  Still bummed me out.

    #135600

    Canadian Soldier
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    Bill was really, really voluble last night. A real “hay’s in the barn” performance:

     

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    #135601

    Claude45
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    Lunchtime reading from Joe

    Wow. I know he is tremendously proud of the following line to real estate agents.

    “You are ghostwriting your client’s legacies…”

    This makes less sense than an LJ cartoon. It means and says NOTHING.

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    #135602

    Lebron
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    “…and another organization” referring to coaching with Parcells and the Jets is the money shot.

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    #135603

    Suzy
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    It stunning to me how adding meaningless, boring and irrelevant details/humblebrags/brags to a story really makes Petey King feel like he’s delivering gold. The most tedious man in the world……

    In some interview he’s describing how he starts his day (the best way to start the day on case you’re wondering) “..and sit down, with shredded wheat, and blueberries….” On and on and on and on.

    Entitled fraud/jackass *is* the most tedious man in the world–well said! It’s infuriating how much he skates on his horse shit.

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    #135604

    Kingasaurus
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    “…and another organization” :lol::lol::lol::lol:

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    #135605

    Big Fat O
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    You know it’s the Super Bowl when the Globe has the spotlight article ready for the Pats.

    #135606

    Canadian Soldier
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    It stunning to me how adding meaningless, boring and irrelevant details/humblebrags/brags to a story really makes Petey King feel like he’s delivering gold. The most tedious man in the world……

    In some interview he’s describing how he starts his day (the best way to start the day on case you’re wondering) “..and sit down, with shredded wheat, and blueberries….” On and on and on and on.

    Entitled fraud/jackass *is* the most tedious man in the world–well said! It’s infuriating how much he skates on his horse shit.

    I got a sickening mental picture when I read about Fatty “sitting down” and eating, you know, fiber and fruit.

    :puke: :rollseyes:

     

    #135608

    Humphrey
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    You know it’s the Super Bowl when the Globe has the spotlight article ready for the Pats.

    Highpants Bob and Jackie The Cock are no doubt warming up in the bullpen too.

     

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