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  • #116922

    Bruce
    Keymaster

    This is what I received:

    I don’t think I f*cked it up. This memo clearly infers that Kraft gave Belichick the mandate to trade Jimmy G after repeated meetings with Brady, and that the end was that “Brady won.” By the wording there, it seems clear that Wickersham was going to infer that JG was traded as a direct result of Brady pressuring Kraft.

    It looks like they ended up changing the wording significantly.

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    #116923

    Bruce
    Keymaster

    After I tweeted about it, ESPN apparently:

    1. Changed their wording and denied the inference to PFT

    2. Dumped the article out in the middle of the night instead of 8am.

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    #116924

    Coma
    Participant

    Three different articles on Deadspin about the Patriots, plus the one from Wednesday about Belichick being a monster for not canceling practice because of the snow. I’m sure this kind of obsession is healthy and normal.

    #116925

    Lefty
    Moderator

    Gronk makes the pro bowl and gets his bonus.

    Sports writers everywhere are mad that their pre-written discontent story just got trashed.

    #116926

    Big Fat O
    Participant

    Do you think B.B. traded Jimmy to the Niners  so he got Hoyer back since he knows the system?

    This is all about shitting on the greatest coach who is a big meanie to the media.

    You never saw any of this about Walsh, Gibbs or Parcells who were more media friendly.

    #116928

    Lefty
    Moderator

    The simplest answer is almost always the right one.   The economics of the Jimmy G deal are obvious: Trade him and get something, keep him and have to SLAP the franchise tag on him, or lose him for nothing.  If you SLAP him, it’s in the $20M range.   It is perfectly plausible that in any organization, no matter who you are, if you are going to guarantee one individual a payment of $20M, you need to let the owner know about that.  I think it is also perfectly plausible that the owner may not want to do that for someone who is going to be a back up.   That means you get what you can or you get nothing at all.   All of this is business, as Tom Hagen would say, it’s not personal.

    Sadly, it doesn’t fit into the soap opera and can’t just be accepted as that.

    #116929

    Feejis
    Participant

    After I tweeted about it, ESPN apparently: 1. Changed their wording and denied the inference to PFT 2. Dumped the article out in the middle of the night instead of 8am.

    My $0.02:

    1. I think if you had actually said the article implied that it happened you’d have been ok.

    2. You shouldn’t give a shit about the criticism.

    #116930

    Hacksaw
    Participant

    Red Sox/Globe are great for hatchet jobs, I dont think they ever gave a heads up a hatchet job was coming out. They just put it out there in the AM.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by  Hacksaw.
    #116932

    Canadian Soldier
    Participant

    From SpyGate to DeflateGate to this, these “scandals” or “storylines” just keep getting more and more trivial and ridiculous. What a waste of energy.

    #116933

    BrianInLA
    Participant

    Raiders are giving new head coach Jon Gruden a 10-year contract, the longest coaching deal in NFL history, sources tell ESPN. The deal is likely to be worth about $100 million.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by  BrianInLA.
    #116935

    tiny
    Participant

    I have enjoyed all the comments here and on twitter ripping this amateur hack job by Seth (Gossip Girl) Wickersham.  This guy BTW is a lunatic.  I heard him on Rusillos ESPN radio show a while back describing a time he heard noises in his house and thought it was something sinister by Patriots or fanz (seriously).  Anyway, of all the nonsense he wrote, I was struck by the bit about TB being mad about not being Patriot of the week.  I have been following the team for 20 years including listening to the deplorable PFW in Progress podcasts, and have never heard of “Patriot of the week”.  I guess neither has Jeff Howe who covers the team for a living.  A perfect example of how out of touch the author is w day to day biz in Foxboro.  If any of the regular beat guys were given that nugget by an “unnamed source” they would have been pretty skeptical right?

    Jeff Howe:

    “I’ve never heard of a Patriot of the Week. If that meant practice player of the week, the honor applies almost exclusively to scout-team players, which would eliminate Brady from the selection process.”

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by  tiny.
    #116937

    Major Intangibles
    Participant

    Raiders are giving new head coach Jon Gruden a 10-year contract, the longest coaching deal in NFL history, sources tell ESPN. The deal is likely to be worth about $100 million.

    Bill might only get to coach against Gruden twice in that ten years! Odd and sad.  :pk:

    Nothing will be saved. All will be lost. And our new onion-headed sad emoticon is unable to convey the depth of that loss. -10/22/25 (sic) Daily Thread

    #116939

    Laszlo Panaflex
    Participant

    Jon Gruden has a 91-85 lifetime coaching record, and was only 2 games above 0.500 his last 7 years in the league.

    He hasn’t won a playoff game in 15 years.

    He was above 0.500 only 6 if his 11 years as a head coach.

    Why would you give him $100,000,000 to run your football team?

    It’s insane. Fucking insane. Brian Billick has essentially the same stats and is pulling per-diem gigs at the NFL Network. I’m flabbergasted.

     

    #116940

    Lefty
    Moderator

    Jon Gruden has a 91-85 lifetime coaching record, and was only 2 games above 0.500 his last 7 years in the league. He hasn’t won a playoff game in 15 years. He was above 0.500 only 6 if his 11 years as a head coach. Why would you give him $100,000,000 to run your football team? It’s insane. Fucking insane. Brian Billick has essentially the same stats and is pulling per-diem gigs at the NFL Network. I’m flabbergasted.

    Here’s why:

     

    #116941

    02062
    Participant

    Don King took to calling Chuck Sullivan “Charlie Tuna” when Chuck talked Billy into going into the concert promotion business for the Victory Tour.

    Davis is dumber

     

    #116942

    Kingasaurus
    Participant

    How can a human look that much like a Jack-O-lantern?

    #116943

    Laszlo Panaflex
    Participant

    I don’t understand why the Davis family doesn’t passionately hate Gruden’s guts? He quit on the team and then proceeded to publicly humiliate them in the SuperBowl. Tampa Bay put him in their Ring of Honor for doing just that. It defies all logic and common sense.

    #116944

    Lefty
    Moderator

    How can a human look that much like a Jack-O-lantern?

    I think if you gave him longer hair, he could Dare to Taste.

    #116945

    Lebron
    Participant

    Snowboarding and I spot a guy wearing a ‘90s era Apex Miami Dolphins jacket.  Surprisingly not Bedard

    #116946

    chicowalker
    Participant

    “Coach, let’s grab lunch this week to go over some pre-draft stuff..”

    “Sure, how about tuesday? Hooters?”

    “Tuesday works, but I’m thinking PF Changs…”

    “Nah, fuck that, they have wings there? Hooters!”

    *getting shaky* “But I go to PF Changs every day..”

    “HOOTERS!”

    “Changs!”

    “HOOTERS!”

    “CHANGS!”

    ad infinitum 10 years, a large fortune, and no titals later…

    #116947

    jforb
    Participant

    How can a human look that much like a Jack-O-lantern?


    ed: That’s supposed to include the And a new candle every now and then? line.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by  jforb.
    #116949

    02062
    Participant

    How can a human look that much like a Jack-O-lantern?

    With apologies to XTC

    Marky Pumpkinhead came to town
    Spreading wisdom and dad’s cash around
    Ditched Del Rio and hired Gruden
    Showed the media that he’s all in

    But he made too many enemies
    Of the people who would keep us on our knees
    Hooray for Marky Pumpkin
    Who’ll pray for Marky Pumpkinhead?

    #116950

    BrianInLA
    Participant

    Jon Gruden has a 91-85 lifetime coaching record, and was only 2 games above 0.500 his last 7 years in the league. He hasn’t won a playoff game in 15 years. He was above 0.500 only 6 if his 11 years as a head coach. Why would you give him $100,000,000 to run your football team? It’s insane. Fucking insane. Brian Billick has essentially the same stats and is pulling per-diem gigs at the NFL Network. I’m flabbergasted.

    And this is AFTER they received about $700 million in public money to build the new stadium. Nothing like throwing money away. He leaves after 3 years and gets a $50 million buyout.

    #116951

    RedSeat
    Participant

    Why am I thinking of the Progressive, “Hey, twins!” commercial when I see that picture of Davis?

    #116952

    02062
    Participant

    How does non conpliance with the rooney rule get explained away here?

    #116953

    chicowalker
    Participant

    Davis is in compliance with the Ed Rooney rule, wherein he is required to look like he could be “in possession of child pornography and accused of soliciting a 14-year-old boy to pose for nude photographs”

    #116956

    Coma
    Participant

    It may cost me the BSMW Poster of the Week award, but I want to circle back to Volin’s idiotic 5-1>5-4 claim. Context means a ton here. It’s not like you’re drawing lots and someone ends up with “5-1” and someone else gets “5-4” and they debate about which one is better.

    The 49ers were great in the 80s, winning 4 SBs and adding one more in the 90s. Since then, they had no appearances in the 00s and are 0-1 this decade. New England was 0-1 in SBs in the 80s and 90s, was 3-1 in the 00s and 2-1 in this decade. It’s been said before, but it’s crazy to think that it was better, for example, for SF to go 1-0 in the Super Bowl from 92-98 when they were winning double digit games each year, finishing first in their division 5 out of 7 times and having a bye in the playoffs 5 times. It would be more impressive if they went to and lost another SB during that run, not less.

    Maybe a different approach could get Volin’s synapses firing: Who accomplished more, a writer who won the Pulitzer 5 times and was a finalist 4 other times* or someone with 5 wins and was a finalist on one other occasion?

    *I don’t know if that’s how the Pulitzer works, but you could apply it to the Best Actor or Best Director Oscar also. It’s better to have a chance to be the champion more times, not less.

    #116958

    jforb
    Participant

    You forgot one in the 80s/90s.

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