February 19, 2020 at 11:54 am #145868
Would a team made up of 9 Brock’s beat a team made up of 9 Trot’s?
Still one of the funniest things I’ve heard since living out here was when ex-wife’s relatives were in town from Boston (though born and raised in LA) and I was asking the 11 year old who his favorite Sox player was and without missing a beat he said “Brock Holt”. I asked why and he said “I like him because he’s scrappy”. Another generation brainwashed by the media.February 19, 2020 at 12:07 pm #145869HacksawParticipant
Speaking of scrappy….why is Len Sakata not being considered for any managerial jobs.
1 user thanked author for this post.February 19, 2020 at 12:14 pm #145870SuzyParticipant
Agreed. Somehow the whining has made me come full circle and actually want to root for the Astros this season. Especially out here where the butt hurt is off the charts. As has been pointed out many times on here, lots of Dodgers hitters shit the bed in back to back post seasons and that has absolutely nothing to do with trash cans. But give everyone an easy cop out? Sign them all up. Seeing poor Aaron Judge saying the Astros should be stripped of their title is beyond comical.
TormundJustin Turner saying the actual trophy is now basically worthless? Suck it up Sally. Be better. Try harder. Damn soft kids these days. Where is Ozzy when you need him. Everyone one of these players is playing right into the media hands.
Right? It’s embarrassing. They all need a Vito slap.February 19, 2020 at 1:23 pm #145871
Giancarlo Stanton sounds off on Astros’ 2017 scheme: I’d hit 80 home runs if I knew the pitch
We’ll obviously call last year a scratch but your first year in the AL you struck out 211 times. Even last year in 72 ABs he struck out 24 times. Worry about making contact.
Keep hearing ‘if I knew the pitch then…’ bullshit. Stop it. Granted you get fooled sometimes but stop crying like you have absolutely no clue what pitch a guy is going to throw. In some instances you have a very good idea of what they are going to throw. It comes down to location and if you actually hit it. If the Astros knew all the pitches why didn’t they set some HR record or hit like .750 as a team? Obviously they had an advantage but stop acting like the pitchers were throwing soft toss underhand.February 19, 2020 at 1:36 pm #145872Blinded By The LombardisParticipant
As has been pointed out many times on here, lots of Dodgers hitters shit the bed in back to back post seasons and that has absolutely nothing to do with trash cans. But give everyone an easy cop out? Sign them all up. Seeing poor Aaron Judge saying the Astros should be stripped of their title is beyond comical.
TormundJustin Turner saying the actual trophy is now basically worthless? Suck it up Sally. Be better. Try harder.
I should probably be paying better attention given the parallels with Spygate, but it’s so exhausting. But what you said was Spygate to a T: perfect storm of losing players searching for an excuse, losing owners looking to stick it to Kraft, loser media looking to stick it to Belichick, and loser fans all in on burnishing their raging confirmation biases.
I have no idea how serious the Astros’ offense actually was, but the righteous indignation coming from all the usual suspects has me rooting for them.February 19, 2020 at 2:45 pm #145873February 19, 2020 at 8:16 pm #145874Miserable FellowParticipant
I mean, I believe that it’s been demonstrated that the Astros did enact a system that gave their players a legitimate advantage in games whereas I still believe in the Patriots case they did nothing wrong, at least nothing worth more than a token fine. I wouldn’t be surprised if Cora did the same in Boston (and Beltran for the NYY, but no one is talking about that).
However, I am enjoying the Dodgers and Yankees going into complete whiner mode.February 19, 2020 at 10:19 pm #145875HacksawParticipant
Most of the people complaining about the Astros are ones who could barely hit a 50 mph fastball.February 20, 2020 at 11:24 am #145876
6 games on wild card weekend actually sounds terrible.February 20, 2020 at 12:13 pm #145877Laszlo PanaflexParticipant
If this goes through (along with the 17 game regular season) the lone bye is going to be like a Super Power up from an old Nintendo game That team will have a big advantage, but maybe that’s what they are going for and making it even easier for the two #1 seed to meet in the Supey. Old Rog may have gotten palpitation when the Titans took an early lead in the AFC championship.February 20, 2020 at 1:14 pm #145878February 20, 2020 at 1:30 pm #145879Laszlo PanaflexParticipant
They are also talking about only 3 pre-season games so perhaps that is a way to even things out.February 20, 2020 at 1:50 pm #145884ComaParticipant
Then its an uneven schedule, 9 home and 8 away? Or everyone plays 1 neutral? 17 games just sounds so dumb. Then you’ll get the bitching about records and who had more home games. It’s nonsensical
The 17th game will be a “Fairness Bowl,” with the location and opponent determined by Peter King. Special rules will be in place for Fairness Bowls, all geared toward making the games as dramatic and fair as possible. For example, if an “anonymous rookie” fumbles away Aaron Rodgers’ opportunity at a game winning or tying drive, the turnover will be wiped out and the offense will keep the ball. If there are poor or unpopular officiating calls, these will be reviewed. If it’s something like a tripping call against Dallas, it will be overturned because people just knew that wasn’t right and the Patriots benefited from a call in 2002. Other blown calls will be allowed to stand because human error is part of the game. Lastly, after the game has ended, the losing team will be permitted one final, untimed possession because that’s what competition is all about.February 20, 2020 at 2:59 pm #145885
There is talk of playing the odd games at historic sites like Notre Dame stadium or some nonsense like that. I guess because some teams already give up a home game each year for the dumb London/Mexico games and there hasn’t been a lot of backlash yet from the “fairness committee”. Granted its usually lousy teams and the Pats haven’t benefitted from it yet which is probably why no one cares.
As soon as its live and the Pats get the #1 super seed and coast through the playoffs it’ll get changed to either add an 8th playoff team (which is where this has to be going) or back to 6. The last wild card team to make the Super Bowl was the 2011 Giants I believe. May as well add even more crappy teams to the playoffs.February 20, 2020 at 3:09 pm #145886jforbParticipantFebruary 20, 2020 at 3:10 pm #145887Blinded By The LombardisParticipantFebruary 20, 2020 at 3:29 pm #145888chicowalkerParticipant
The ONE thing the NFL gets consistently right is the schedule. Perfect math, no thumbs on the scale (except perhaps bye placement and when they games are, but that seems more random/TV influence) Who is the 17th opponent going to be? Are we going to have a rivalry week like they used to do in MLB with interleague? (Remember the glorious Red Sox-Phillies rivalry? First time I ever heard the word “motherfucker” was my father talking about Larry Bowa )
You know the league will try to be too cute by half, scheduling games based on Peter King’s “It’s a shame we don’t get to see…” matrix, ignoring the attrition of injury and how about 40% of playoff teams are new every year. Will they flex out of Pats-Saints when Brees is hurt and the battle of the 40+ year olds is now Brady vs whatever Billy Joe is his backup?February 20, 2020 at 3:32 pm #145889chicowalkerParticipant
And if it doesn’t come to pass that in one of their 9 home game seasons, the sainted Giants/Rams don’t play a road game against the Jets/Chargers, I’ll eat my hatFebruary 20, 2020 at 4:07 pm #14589002062ParticipantFebruary 20, 2020 at 4:13 pm #145891
Supposedly over in MLB someone in charge has actually taken Simmons’ idea on the playoffs from way back seriously. They are considering adding more teams but the higher seed would get to choose their opponent and the lower seeds would have to play all of their games on the road during the short 2 out of 3 series. The whole “choosing the opponent” was Simmons idea back around 2011. I just cant believe that anyone on the planet actually listened and thought “Ya, this seems fair and like an awesome idea and wont open a huge can of worms”.
These fragile baseball players are all losing their shit over a team that may have had a tiny advantage over them. Can you imagine the “that’s a slap in our face / disrespectful of the game” the first time a team purposely picks the Yankees as opponent and beats them?February 20, 2020 at 5:30 pm #145892
You’ll also get a bunch of ‘disrespect!’ bullshit if a team picks them as well as ‘see no one wants to play us!’ bullshit if a team doesn’t get picked. It’s all gimmicky bullshit. It’s going to be awful.
I used to love how baseball playoffs/postseason was an LCS and a World Series. I did think the 5 game LCS up until the mid ’80s was a bit too short and the move to 7 was good. Never really liked adding wildcard teams but I could live with the 1 team. The play in game shit is a joke. I used to look at hockey and think it’s a 23 team league and everyone but 7 teams make the playoffs? Or maybe that was the NBA. Or both. I liked it when it was way harder to make the playoffs or like baseball it was win your division or go home. Heck I’d almost rather go back to leagues and the winners of the league go directly to the World Series.February 20, 2020 at 7:15 pm #145893
Jonathan Lucroy said yeah everyone knew about the Astros and I changed the signs each pitch. As he notes it made the games longer, which we all know is one of the worst parts of baseball. Would be interesting in a non Ben Volin way to hear from some other catchers, rather than a bunch of hitters bitching.February 20, 2020 at 9:27 pm #145894
I have no idea what this means. Well done rich millenials of the Ringer:February 20, 2020 at 9:35 pm #145895
Oh and after seeing the extended trailer for the new season of Westworld I am fully convinced that they had a budget of close to a billion dollars. It looks like Transformers meets Gangs of New York.February 20, 2020 at 10:35 pm #145896Miserable FellowParticipant
Weird, unintentional consequences would happen with this proposal as well.
Imagine if the first year a 7-9 Patriots team sneaks in, catches fire and then wins the Super Bowl.
Imagine the two best teams in a conference are tied at 14-2. On the strength of tiebreakers one has to play in the Wild Card. 14-2 Tom Brady gets to sit at home while 14-2 Patrick Mahomes gets upset in the Wild Card Round.
As for the 17th game, there’s no way to come up with a straightfoward rule as to what teams would play what teams from year to year unless you scrap the whole scheduling system. Let’s say you want to add a week in which each team plays the team in the other conference that’s the same placement. So the #1 seed from the AFC the previous season plays the #1 team in the NFC on a neutral field, #2 vs #2, and so on. That’s good, but what if the #1 seeds are already scheduled to play? Are we going to have Baltimore play SF twice in the same year? Out of 16 games it’s going to happen about 1/4 of the time. It will be dumb and contrived.
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