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  • #106402

    BrianInLA
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    GoT felt short..and then I looked and it was the shortest episode to date. If they were still going based on the book and not the new way then either Jaime or Bronn would have died last night. Awesome episode though.

    I liked how Daenerys gave Jon the same speech he gave to the king of the Wildlings almost word for word on bending the knee and pride.

    I can see why Sansa is always pouting…one sibling is a Ninja, another can see and change time/space and yet another came back from the dead.  I’d probably pout too.

    #106413

    Feejis
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    Maybe it’s just the way it was shot so the water was meant to look deep as a reference to Jaime’s current place in the world or whatever, but he was literally just galloping his horse along the shore in shallow water.

    How deep could the water actually be where he landed? Does it drop off a cliff 10 feet from shore?

    #106417

    Callahardfoul
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    Maybe it’s just the way it was shot so the water was meant to look deep as a reference to Jaime’s current place in the world or whatever, but he was literally just galloping his horse along the shore in shallow water. How deep could the water actually be where he landed? Does it drop off a cliff 10 feet from shore?

    Good catch. :lol: Anyway, if they were going to kill him off, they would’ve let the dragon do it. He’s alive.

    #106420

    BrianInLA
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    Also Daenerys jumping off the dragon to tend to the wound didn’t look like a sound battle strategy. If Jaime had just shot her with an arrow….war is over.

     

    #106421

    Greek Freak
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    Also Daenerys jumping off the dragon to tend to the wound didn’t look like a sound battle strategy. If Jaime had just shot her with an arrow….war is over.

    Tough to shoot an arrow with one hand.

     

    I liked the Bran/Littlefinger exchange.  The look on LF’s face when Bran repeated his “chaos is a ladder” line was great.

    I had to go back and see when LF said that.

     

     

     

     

    #106442

    Lebron
    Participant

    Found this interesting

    The sequence directed by Matt Shakman actually set an industry record for setting stuntmen on fire. Oftentimes movies and show use computer effects for fire scenes, but the Thrones showrunners prefer to use real fire whenever possible to add realism. The battle had 73 “fire burns” plus 20 people set ablaze simultaneous for a single shot — both of which had never been done by a single movie or TV production before.

    #106476

    Marty Nopointe
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    Also Daenerys jumping off the dragon to tend to the wound didn’t look like a sound battle strategy. If Jaime had just shot her with an arrow….war is over.

    Half her army is stranded at Casterly Rock with no supplies, the other half of her army has the supply train with the loot – specifically the grain according to Tarly (minus most gold) from Highgarden in hand and she sets it on fire. … In a show that’s been telling us for 7 seasons winter is coming and they need to start stockpiling supplies.

    #106524

    BrianInLA
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    Also Daenerys jumping off the dragon to tend to the wound didn’t look like a sound battle strategy. If Jaime had just shot her with an arrow….war is over.

    Half her army is stranded at Casterly Rock with no supplies, the other half of her army has the supply train with the loot – specifically the grain according to Tarly (minus most gold) from Highgarden in hand and she sets it on fire. … In a show that’s been telling us for 7 seasons winter is coming and they need to start stockpiling supplies.

    Sounds like something the current guy in charge would do. :dry:

    #106558

    Turd Furguson
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    Is Rickon Stark the Chuck Cunningham of GOT?      Bran with a Dr Manhattan type of vibe too.

    #106569

    Feejis
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    Is Rickon Stark the Chuck Cunningham of GOT? Bran with a Dr Manhattan type of vibe too.

    I definitely don’t remember Chuck being killed on screen with an arrow through the heart.
    ;-)

    #106578

    BrianInLA
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    In hindsight if Rickon had just jogged backwards across the battlefield he probably could have avoided the arcing arrows from Ramsey as he could have seen them coming right at him and just stepped aside.  Damn rookie.

    #106924

    Turd Furguson
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    Is Rickon Stark the Chuck Cunningham of GOT? Bran with a Dr Manhattan type of vibe too.

    I definitely don’t remember Chuck being killed on screen with an arrow through the heart. 😉

    I mean that he’s never mentioned or talked about again.   Even in flashbacks.    I know there wasn’t much character development with him but the others don’t seem to miss him.

    #106960

    Kevin
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    Is Rickon Stark the Chuck Cunningham of GOT? Bran with a Dr Manhattan type of vibe too.

    I definitely don’t remember Chuck being killed on screen with an arrow through the heart.
    😉

    Weird part is that Jon orders him to be buried next to Ned. And then Sansa and Arya are standing right there last week. Couldn’t have squeezed the one line telling her what happened to him. :lol:

    #106961

    Kevin
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    Davos might as well have said: “Hey Gendry, George’s book requires some redshirt deaths north of the wall. Suit up!”

    #106965

    Humphrey
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    Is Rickon Stark the Chuck Cunningham of GOT? Bran with a Dr Manhattan type of vibe too.

    I definitely don’t remember Chuck being killed on screen with an arrow through the heart. 😉

    I mean that he’s never mentioned or talked about again. Even in flashbacks. I know there wasn’t much character development with him but the others don’t seem to miss him.

    Speaking of flashbacks, is Abby on Ray Donovan more annoying dead or alive?

     

     

    #106971

    Feejis
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    Davos might as well have said: “Hey Gendry, George’s book requires some redshirt deaths north of the wall. Suit up!”

    That would be a big, terrific FU to the fans who have been wailing about his absence all these years. :lol:

    #106988

    Kevin
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    Davos might as well have said: “Hey Gendry, George’s book requires some redshirt deaths north of the wall. Suit up!”

    That would be a big, terrific FU to the fans who have been wailing about his absence all these years. 😆

    Davos joking about him still out there rowing was a nice touch.

    #106998

    Doncabesa
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    Davos might as well have said: “Hey Gendry, George’s book requires some redshirt deaths north of the wall. Suit up!”

    I think he’ll live, they have red shirt wildlings and lesser characters like thoros and/or dondarion to off next episode.

    #107005

    Kevin
    Participant

    I wonder what the reason is that Jon won’t tell Dany about Melisandre bringing him back from the dead.

    They’re hitting that point pretty hard for it to not mean anything.

    #107011

    BrianInLA
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    Doesn’t really seem like a sound plan. Head north of the wall (using the Star Trek transporter as we’re almost out of time which means characters can be anywhere at any time these days), capture a dead guy, bring him down to Kings Landing to show the queen who wants everyone dead and magically she will go “Woah! Dead guy? Lets all band together and go after these dead folks..”.

    If they used the pacing of this season last year then Aria would have been in Braavos for about 12 minutes of one episode and come out fighting like a ninja.

    I read some of the what is supposed to be the leaked script online for the next several episodes. I’d be shocked if what has been leaked comes out to be accurate.

     

     

     

     

    #107018

    Doncabesa
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    I wonder what the reason is that Jon won’t tell Dany about Melisandre bringing him back from the dead. They’re hitting that point pretty hard for it to not mean anything.

    I guess getting them to believe about the knight king and his army is more important than also trying to say “hey I died and came back to life” on top of it in his mind.  Doesn’t want her to think he’s full blown nuts by saying both maybe?

    #107027

    Feejis
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    I wonder what the reason is that Jon won’t tell Dany about Melisandre bringing him back from the dead. They’re hitting that point pretty hard for it to not mean anything.

    You don’t impress the ladies and wield influence by announcing that the last group you were in charge of rose up and decided to kill you.

    #107028

    Tommyfw
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    I wonder what the reason is that Jon won’t tell Dany about Melisandre bringing him back from the dead. They’re hitting that point pretty hard for it to not mean anything.

    I guess getting them to believe about the knight king and his army is more important than also trying to say “hey I died and came back to life” on top of it in his mind. Doesn’t want her to think he’s full blown nuts by saying both maybe?

    He doesn’t know that she had Drogo resurrected (to less than stellar success) and it is a trust factor.  I agree on the total loon bit but that is also something that I don’t think he fully comprehends so avoidance is a good strategy.

    She totally sold that she is falling for him with the looks she was giving him unbeknownst to him last night.  She is digging him.

    Poor Jorrah–he wants in that so bad but she loves him like a brother.  Perpetual friend zone even if he doesn’t see it.

    #107029

    Feejis
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    Doesn’t really seem like a sound plan. Head north of the wall (using the Star Trek transporter as we’re almost out of time which means characters can be anywhere at any time these days), capture a dead guy, bring him down to Kings Landing to show the queen who wants everyone dead and magically she will go “Woah! Dead guy? Lets all band together and go after these dead folks..”. If they used the pacing of this season last year then Aria would have been in Braavos for about 12 minutes of one episode and come out fighting like a ninja. I read some of the what is supposed to be the leaked script online for the next several episodes. I’d be shocked if what has been leaked comes out to be accurate.

    It’s a terrible plan but my guess is that from a writing standpoint, it gets some characters that are known and detailed into a location where the most important event will happen.

    The Night King and his army will prevail and breach the wall and most of the Magnificent Seven will be witnesses that will spread the word throughout the land during the finale and final season.

    It will have the effect of informing the populace without the actual “bring the dead guy to cersei” part.

    #107033

    Kevin
    Participant

    I wonder what the reason is that Jon won’t tell Dany about Melisandre bringing him back from the dead. They’re hitting that point pretty hard for it to not mean anything.

    You don’t impress the ladies and wield influence by announcing that the last group you were in charge of rose up and decided to kill you.

    Second to last! :lol:

    Besides, she can talk to dragons and can walk through fire. She’s a little kooky herself.

    Not just Jon, though. Melisandre also hid out when they got there. There must be some reason why the plot requires Dany to not know about their previous attachment.

    #107034

    Doncabesa
    Participant

    I wonder what the reason is that Jon won’t tell Dany about Melisandre bringing him back from the dead. They’re hitting that point pretty hard for it to not mean anything.

    You don’t impress the ladies and wield influence by announcing that the last group you were in charge of rose up and decided to kill you.

    Second to last! 😆 Besides, she can talk to dragons and can walk through fire. She’s a little kooky herself. Not just Jon, though. Melisandre also hid out when they got there. There must be some reason why the plot requires Dany to not know about their previous attachment.

    John said he’d kill Melisandre the next time he saw her, because of what she did to Shireen.

    #107074

    BrianInLA
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    Talked to a friend of mine who works on Westworld and said the leaks for GoT are mostly accurate and said next weeks episode is being hailed as the best one in years.  Also said that #boatsex was going to be a trending topic next week so we will see.

    If the small amount I’ve read is true then I’m not sure how I feel.  The scenes read like a major action packed movie which is never a bad thing even if logic and reason get thrown out the window.

    #107077

    Feejis
    Participant

    Now I’ve got to set up HBO go to watch on vacation. :lol:

    I will say that shot of the all stars leaving Eastwatch was pretty great. Just a cool thing to have all those characters together like that.

    #107079

    Lebron
    Participant

    Jeezus Dickon Tarly got fucked.  First everyone fucks his name up, then they laugh at him when they figure out his actual name,  he saves Jaime, then gets torched.  At least he got a few years of work as Billy Bones on Black Sails

    #107080

    Kevin
    Participant

    Hey, why don’t we kill Cersei, become Queen, and then take her armies to fight the ice zombies? Wouldn’t that be easier?

    #107096

    Feejis
    Participant

    Hey, why don’t we kill Cersei, become Queen, and then take her armies to fight the ice zombies? Wouldn’t that be easier?

    Lot more people die in the process.

    #107104

    Kevin
    Participant

    Hey, why don’t we kill Cersei, become Queen, and then take her armies to fight the ice zombies? Wouldn’t that be easier?

    Lot more people die in the process.

    If they’re sticking with Cersei, they’re all gonna die anyway.

    Hey can you lend us your army to kill these undead guys before we kill them?

    #107308

    Lebron
    Participant

    Talked to a friend of mine who works on Westworld and said the leaks for GoT are mostly accurate and said next weeks episode is being hailed as the best one in years. Also said that #boatsex was going to be a trending topic next week so we will see. If the small amount I’ve read is true then I’m not sure how I feel. The scenes read like a major action packed movie which is never a bad thing even if logic and reason get thrown out the window.

    70 minutes this week, 80 minutes on the finale.

    From what I read/saw one of things supposedly happening sounds awesome and one sounds way too simple.

    #107309

    BrianInLA
    Participant

    Talked to a friend of mine who works on Westworld and said the leaks for GoT are mostly accurate and said next weeks episode is being hailed as the best one in years. Also said that #boatsex was going to be a trending topic next week so we will see. If the small amount I’ve read is true then I’m not sure how I feel. The scenes read like a major action packed movie which is never a bad thing even if logic and reason get thrown out the window.

    70 minutes this week, 80 minutes on the finale. From what I read/saw one of things supposedly happening sounds awesome and one sounds way too simple.

    I got the scoop on the rest of the season from my Westworld guy (even though I really didn’t want it but after a few beers no one shuts up) and its definitely not what I would have imagined when this season started. The #boatsex trend wont be until the finale but the person telling me the details said the show sort of gave away the big swerve in the first episode of the season and it was just a quick 5 second throwaway shot. He told me what it was and I remember the scene and I will admit I never would have put the two together. I don’t want to give away anymore but I was promised the next two episodes are going to be amazing. Judging from the few reactions I’ve read on the leaked episode this week he’s probably correct. I also fully believe HBO leaked this weeks episode themselves just to piss off the hackers.

    As far as Westworld goes the folks I know who work on the set for that all say its the most intense thing they’ve ever done as far as complexity of shots and how detailed they have to get all the sets and scenes. Though I’m sure the G0T production blows away anything else ever made as far as a series goes.

     

    #107356

    Marty Nopointe
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    Doesn’t really seem like a sound plan. Head north of the wall (using the Star Trek transporter as we’re almost out of time which means characters can be anywhere at any time these days), capture a dead guy, bring him down to Kings Landing to show the queen who wants everyone dead and magically she will go “Woah! Dead guy? Lets all band together and go after these dead folks..”.

    If they used the pacing of this season last year then Aria would have been in Braavos for about 12 minutes of one episode and come out fighting like a ninja.

    I read some of the what is supposed to be the leaked script online for the next several episodes. I’d be shocked if what has been leaked comes out to be accurate.

    They need to convince Cersei the dead are being resurrected. The Cersei who has a pet zombie.

    #107406

    Danny Duberstein
    Participant

    Finally got around to watching Deadwood, in the back half of season 2. Fucking great

    #107411

    Kevin
    Participant

    Wow, that was a terrible episode of GoT.

    #107421

    Feejis
    Participant

    All that just to get a dead guy to Cersei so they can borrow her couple hundred soldiers for a little while.

    I didn’t hate all of it – but the Gendry/raven/dragon rescue timeline was absurd.

    Also – nobody got pissed at Clegane for starting the fight? Seems like they could’ve just sat there forever until he did that.

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    #107431

    Callahardfoul
    Participant

    They’ll certainly have a fan-servicey expositive scene next episode explaining the timing issue on Gendry’s Raven / Dany showing up.  For a show that built a following largely on immersion, I find myself annoyed that the dragons showed up a little too early.  :lol:

    #107435

    InThisTown
    Participant

    Finally got around to watching Deadwood, in the back half of season 2. Fucking great

    Get on Ozark next.

    #107436

    Kevin
    Participant

    Why not start throwing the deadly accurate ice javelins at the dudes stuck on a rock? :lol:

    #107443

    BSF34
    Participant

    Wait, what?

    #107445

    RedSeat
    Participant

    Why not start throwing the deadly accurate ice javelins at the dudes stuck on a rock? 😆

    Or at the larger, closer, stationary dragon with all the people sitting right on top of it.

    #107503

    BrianInLA
    Participant

    So you lose 3-4 pretty good fighters and 1 of only 3 dragons alive all to steal a single dead guy? That makes the Anderson for Bagwell trade look good by comparison. Wasn’t a huge fan of the episode, mainly because it had been hyped so much ahead of time by those around me that it was bound to be a letdown.

    Ozark was awesome. Watched the entire thing in a weekend and it was great.

     

     

    #107519

    Feejis
    Participant

    Why not start throwing the deadly accurate ice javelins at the dudes stuck on a rock? 😆

    Well, duh, you’ve got 10,000 zombies to handle them.

    After further review I’m less annoyed by that plot line than I am with Arya just leaving a bag of skinned faces hanging around.

    #107522

    Danny Duberstein
    Participant

    Finally got around to watching Deadwood, in the back half of season 2. Fucking great

    Get on Ozark next.

    I think next is Defenders. But I will take your recommendation under advisement

    #107524

    Lebron
    Participant

    So you lose 3-4 pretty good fighters and 1 of only 3 dragons alive all to steal a single dead guy? That makes the Anderson for Bagwell trade look good by comparison. Wasn’t a huge fan of the episode, mainly because it had been hyped so much ahead of time by those around me that it was bound to be a letdown. Ozark was awesome. Watched the entire thing in a weekend and it was great.

    Definitely wasn’t a great plan to try to kidnap an Army of the Dead soldier, but I guess they don’t have much in the way of an army with the Unsullied trapped at Casterly Rock, although they should have some Dothraki although they’re probably useless up north.   I did like the callback to the Hound’s fear of fire.

    I didn’t follow the travel plans – why is the Hound on a separate ship/boat with the kidnapped soldier?  They’re all on their way to King’s Landing now right?

    #107525

    Danny Duberstein
    Participant

    One risk in Deadwood binging….your use of cocksucker will go up 1235%. Motherfucker also.

    #107529

    Kevin
    Participant

    Why not start throwing the deadly accurate ice javelins at the dudes stuck on a rock? 😆

    Well, duh, you’ve got 10,000 zombies to handle them.

    After further review I’m less annoyed by that plot line than I am with Arya just leaving a bag of skinned faces hanging around.

    Arya is pretty haughty for someone who could have easily poisoned Tywin Lannister if she wanted to.

    #107542

    BSF34
    Participant

    The Night King also happens to have a bunch of huge chains?

    Wait, what?

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