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  • #127607
    02062
    Participant

    Cwaig, Did Tristan get KO’d cuz he thought he was ahead in points? BWAHAHAHAHhagaga

    I’m very excited Cwaig that Glenn and the guys will be doing the post game show this year.

    Speaking of acts that have worn out their welcome LJ, here’s celebrity caller LarryFromNewburyport.

    LARRY!  HOWAREYA?

    #127608
    Lefty
    Moderator

    Well, Malcolm Mitchell was NOT the first receiver cut by the Patriots.

    Bye Bye, Jordan Matthews.

    #127609
    Coma
    Participant

    Manish, like Billy Mumphrey is a bit of a “cockeyed optimist”

    The stage diving ninny is just cockeyed.

    Mehta: Jets are becoming relevant again thanks to strong leadership

    If I was a recently laid off Daily News employee, I’d be thinking “They kept this guy and kicked me to the curb? That makes no sense at all.”

    #127610
    Lefty
    Moderator

    Manish, like Billy Mumphrey is a bit of a “cockeyed optimist”

    The stage diving ninny is just cockeyed.

    Mehta: Jets are becoming relevant again thanks to strong leadership

    If I was a recently laid off Daily News employee, I’d be thinking “They kept this guy and kicked me to the curb? That makes no sense at all.”

    If someone told me Mehta was laid off last week but was still tweeting and filing his ridiculous stories any way, it would not in any way surprise me.

    #127611
    Laszlo Panaflex
    Participant

    Can Mitchel be put on the PUP to start the season? They seem to really want to keep the kid but short of placing him on IR (again) it may be hard unless he makes a speedy recovery.

    #127612
    Claude45
    Participant

    Can Mitchel be put on the PUP to start the season? They seem to really want to keep the kid but short of placing him on IR (again) it may be hard unless he makes a speedy recovery.

    I think you have to be on PUP when training camp starts but I’ve done radio host level research on this. 0.0. So take it with a grain of salt.

     

    #127613
    GusChiggins
    Participant

    New Deflategate book. Brady pissed when Kraft folded.

    Me too! Like equals!

    Now that you’ve posted, you are just as invested as Brady.

    #127614

    The Deflategate book author did a podcast with Hannable. Not impressed. Among other things:

    • Caters to his sources. Called NFLPA lawyers ” unsung heroes”; softpedalled Kraft’s capitulation ( more on that below); never even attempted interviewing Belichick (“What the fuck is he gonna say? Honestly?”)
    • Buys the “smashed phone” talking point
    • Buys the “Belichick threw Brady under the bus” take
    • Thinks Spygate was a “very legitimate controversy”
    • Feels bad for the Foxboro reporters.

    This book and movie is gonna paint Belichick as one of the heavies.

    More details from the podcast. On Kraft:

    He was pissed off obviously, but you know, Kraft has supported him. He couldn’t do it there, and I think that he’s done, the Kraft family has gone above and beyond over the past couple of years to really rebuild that relationship. I think that was part of the reason why Jimmy Garoppolo was jettisoned last year. That was something Kraft felt he had to do to, you know, continue to build that relationship with Brady.”

    “He understands there wouldn’t be a Patriots Place without number 12, the Kraft family owes Brady a lot, and I think they’ve shown that, you know, when Kraft really went after Goodell with the Wells Report in Context, and everything he was doing publicly and behind the scenes, and at least the initial few months. That’s the Kraft that we saw, Dave Wedge and I, when we sat down and talked to them, him and Jonathan Kraft.”

    On Belichick:

    “That first press conference shocked everybody. It shocked Brady’s reps, it no doubt shocked Brady as well. Belichick has always deflected attention away from his players and he put the onus straight on Brady, saying, you know, he wasn’t Mona Lisa Vito from My Cousin Vinny. There’s a little vignette in the book, where we talk to a few people on the island of Nantucket that will tell you that Bill Belichick knows everything about tire gauges. Because they’ve had to pump his tires on the island, and he carries around a tire gauge in the pocket of his shorts. So there’s nothing that happens in Foxboro without his oversight, or at least his involvement. So to stiff arm Brady in this situation I think really stuck to Brady, it continued with the Alex Guerrero situation, and then carried over with the decision to bench Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl, a Super Bowl where Brady threw 500 yards and had them in contention to win.”

    On what Brady should have said:

    “Had he come out and said ‘You know, I like my balls a certain way. I don’t know what’s done behind the scenes or what’s not being done behind the scenes. But I get the balls, I grip them, I can throw them. That’s all I care about. Was there a violation? Maybe.’ Or you know, he didn’t even have to say that, but this would have resulted in a $10,000 fine and nothing more, but I think it steamrolled into a capital murder case instead.”

    On the NFL agenda:

    “He didn’t see that there were people and agendas behind the scenes. The NFL really pushing forward this narrative that Tom Brady was a cheater, and that the Patriots had a history of cheating. And it goes back to the Spygate scandal, a very legitimate controversy and situation in my eyes, that was kinda whitewashed by Roger Goodell at the time. I think the other 31 owners held that over his head for a long period of time. So when the opportunity arose again to go after the Patriots, Goodell had to do that with both fists.”

    On trying to interview Belichick:

    “You know, I didn’t, quite honestly. What the fuck is he gonna say? Honestly. He’s not going to give us any information that he’s not gonna give anyone else. We went to a few of his news conferences at Foxboro, and I felt bad for the journalists in the room. They’re all good journalists, I’ve worked with many of them. And you know, the way that he treats these guys and women is really kind of obnoxious to me. I wouldn’t put up with it… So I didn’t want to hear just the typical Bill Belichick bullshit, which he spews on a daily basis.”

    Maybe he thinks Belichick murdered his Aunt Mary.

    #127615
    Lebron
    Participant

    I wouldn’t put up with it.  Well what would you do tough guy?  Clearly you were too conflict avoidant to even try and line up an interview, so what exactly would you do?

    #127616
    Lebron
    Participant

    That sham of a league had to release a fact sheet with links to a number of ‘educational videos’ with regard to this new helmet rule

    Under the new directive, which has player safety in mind, it is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with the helmet on an opponent. The contact is not limited to an opponent’s head or neck area, and the lowering of the head and initiating contact to a player’s torso, hips and lower body is considered an infraction.

    While fouls are easier to determine in the open field, the rule will apply to anywhere on the field.

    According to the fact sheet, the penalties for a violation include a loss of 15 yards or ejection, which includes a set of standards:

    1. Player lowers his helmet to establish a linear body posture prior to initiating and making contact with the helmet.

    2. Unobstructed path to his opponent.

    3. Contact clearly avoidable and player delivering the blow had other options.

    Now you hit a guy in the hip or thigh and it’s a fucking penalty?  Jesus.  I love ‘clearly unavoidable and had other options’ like what not tackling the guy?  I watched one of the videos, which was Todd Bowles going over defensive backs and looking at hits from last year.  Some he’s saying are standard football plays and others are violations.  I couldn’t tell the difference.  I’m guessing the the ‘linear body posture’ is the deciding factor but does that mean launching doesn’t factor into this?

    #127617
    Coma
    Participant

    I can’t wait for an official to come out of a lengthy review and announce “Upon review, it was determined that #57 had established a linear body posture prior t-” <drowned out by boos>

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by Coma.
    #127619
    Feejis
    Participant

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-long-love-affair-with-beer-is-on-the-rocks-1533133041

     

    Brenden Kennedy, a 32-year-old New York marketing executive, can’t remember the last time he drank a beer. His parents drank Bud Light. When he hit drinking age, he tended to reach for a prosecco.

    “When I drink beer, it always feels very heavy, like empty calories, and I don’t find it’s refreshing unless it’s super, super cold,” he says. “The flavor has never really appealed to me, and it doesn’t feel sophisticated.”

     

    Needless to say I’m not a fan of Brenden with two “e’s” Kennedy’s belief system. Your drink needs to feel sophisticated? Fuck you.

    #127620
    Lefty
    Moderator

    The Deflategate book author did a podcast with Hannable. Not impressed. Among other things:

    • Caters to his sources. Called NFLPA lawyers ” unsung heroes”; softpedalled Kraft’s capitulation ( more on that below); never even attempted interviewing Belichick (“What the fuck is he gonna say? Honestly?”)
    • Buys the “smashed phone” talking point
    • Buys the “Belichick threw Brady under the bus” take
    • Thinks Spygate was a “very legitimate controversy”
    • Feels bad for the Foxboro reporters.

    This book and movie is gonna paint Belichick as one of the heavies.

    More details from the podcast. On Kraft:

    He was pissed off obviously, but you know, Kraft has supported him. He couldn’t do it there, and I think that he’s done, the Kraft family has gone above and beyond over the past couple of years to really rebuild that relationship. I think that was part of the reason why Jimmy Garoppolo was jettisoned last year. That was something Kraft felt he had to do to, you know, continue to build that relationship with Brady.”

    “He understands there wouldn’t be a Patriots Place without number 12, the Kraft family owes Brady a lot, and I think they’ve shown that, you know, when Kraft really went after Goodell with the Wells Report in Context, and everything he was doing publicly and behind the scenes, and at least the initial few months. That’s the Kraft that we saw, Dave Wedge and I, when we sat down and talked to them, him and Jonathan Kraft.”

    On Belichick:

    “That first press conference shocked everybody. It shocked Brady’s reps, it no doubt shocked Brady as well. Belichick has always deflected attention away from his players and he put the onus straight on Brady, saying, you know, he wasn’t Mona Lisa Vito from My Cousin Vinny. There’s a little vignette in the book, where we talk to a few people on the island of Nantucket that will tell you that Bill Belichick knows everything about tire gauges. Because they’ve had to pump his tires on the island, and he carries around a tire gauge in the pocket of his shorts. So there’s nothing that happens in Foxboro without his oversight, or at least his involvement. So to stiff arm Brady in this situation I think really stuck to Brady, it continued with the Alex Guerrero situation, and then carried over with the decision to bench Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl, a Super Bowl where Brady threw 500 yards and had them in contention to win.”

    On what Brady should have said:

    “Had he come out and said ‘You know, I like my balls a certain way. I don’t know what’s done behind the scenes or what’s not being done behind the scenes. But I get the balls, I grip them, I can throw them. That’s all I care about. Was there a violation? Maybe.’ Or you know, he didn’t even have to say that, but this would have resulted in a $10,000 fine and nothing more, but I think it steamrolled into a capital murder case instead.”

    On the NFL agenda:

    “He didn’t see that there were people and agendas behind the scenes. The NFL really pushing forward this narrative that Tom Brady was a cheater, and that the Patriots had a history of cheating. And it goes back to the Spygate scandal, a very legitimate controversy and situation in my eyes, that was kinda whitewashed by Roger Goodell at the time. I think the other 31 owners held that over his head for a long period of time. So when the opportunity arose again to go after the Patriots, Goodell had to do that with both fists.”

    On trying to interview Belichick:

    “You know, I didn’t, quite honestly. What the fuck is he gonna say? Honestly. He’s not going to give us any information that he’s not gonna give anyone else. We went to a few of his news conferences at Foxboro, and I felt bad for the journalists in the room. They’re all good journalists, I’ve worked with many of them. And you know, the way that he treats these guys and women is really kind of obnoxious to me. I wouldn’t put up with it… So I didn’t want to hear just the typical Bill Belichick bullshit, which he spews on a daily basis.”

    Maybe he thinks Belichick murdered his Aunt Mary.

    So, if I follow his stream correctly, the idea that BB arguably took the “I don’t know, you’d have to ask Brady” route is the worst crime committed against humanity.   However, in the author’s esteemed opinion, what Brady should have done was said “I don’t know what’s done behind the scenes or what’s not being done behind the scenes. ”  That is the complete equivalent of saying “I don’t know, you’d have to ask (the two idiots that carried the bag of ball around.)”

    So, BB deflects and it is horrific, but Brady ought to try that deflection, it’s advisable.   :blink:

    #127621
    BrianInLA
    Participant

    I’m really starting to hate the NFL. And I know I already hate non-beer drinking millennials. Carry on.

     

    #127622
    Yahtzee
    Participant

    This part feels about right other than the portion I struck through. Goodell is too dumb, craven, unprincipled to stand up for any greater good – not to mention desperate to be seen as a tough guy – so he caved.

    On the NFL agenda:

    “He didn’t see that there were people and agendas behind the scenes. The NFL really pushing forward this narrative that Tom Brady was a cheater, and that the Patriots had a history of cheating. And it goes back to the Spygate scandal, a very legitimate controversy and situation in my eyes, that was kinda whitewashed by Roger Goodell at the time. I think the other 31 owners held that over his head for a long period of time. So when the opportunity arose again to go after the Patriots, Goodell had to do that with both fists.”

    #127623
    Laszlo Panaflex
    Participant

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-long-love-affair-with-beer-is-on-the-rocks-1533133041

    Brenden Kennedy, a 32-year-old New York marketing executive, can’t remember the last time he drank a beer. His parents drank Bud Light. When he hit drinking age, he tended to reach for a prosecco.

    “When I drink beer, it always feels very heavy, like empty calories, and I don’t find it’s refreshing unless it’s super, super cold,” he says. “The flavor has never really appealed to me, and it doesn’t feel sophisticated.”

    Needless to say I’m not a fan of Brenden with two “e’s” Kennedy’s belief system. Your drink needs to feel sophisticated? Fuck you.

    Prosecco? Really? Brenden is gayer than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide.

    #127624
    GusChiggins
    Participant

    Who are the good journalists?

    #127625
    BrianInLA
    Participant

    The NBA just signed a deal with MGM which, many agents believe, is going to lead to a huge influx of money going forward where they allow fans to bet on everything under the sun during games similar to what happens with soccer overseas. Meanwhile the NFL is now going to call an arbitrary penalty when someone tackles “wrong”. Doing a great job for that $40+ million there Roger.

     

     

    #127626
    Lebron
    Participant

    You also get the guy saying Brady should have said ‘maybe’ it was a violation.  Why would he do that if he didn’t clearly know of a violation or he didn’t instruct people to keep the balls below the allowable level?  Go drink a Sam Adams.  Same goes for Brenden the ‘marketing executive.’

    #127627
    jforb
    Participant

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-long-love-affair-with-beer-is-on-the-rocks-1533133041

    Brenden Kennedy, a 32-year-old New York marketing executive, can’t remember the last time he drank a beer. His parents drank Bud Light. When he hit drinking age, he tended to reach for a prosecco.

    “When I drink beer, it always feels very heavy, like empty calories, and I don’t find it’s refreshing unless it’s super, super cold,” he says. “The flavor has never really appealed to me, and it doesn’t feel sophisticated.”

    Needless to say I’m not a fan of Brenden with two “e’s” Kennedy’s belief system. Your drink needs to feel sophisticated? Fuck you.

    Prosecco? Really? Brenden is gayer than a tree full of monkeys on nitrous oxide.

    Since I’ve got 30 minutes to kill before a call, I just went googling and found a likely twitter account talking about his husband.

    #127628
    Yahtzee
    Participant

    Orange menace has started protecting her tweets. Win win.

    #127629
    Yahtzee
    Participant

    8th inning; Yankees down 7-1 to what’s left of the Orioles.  Not sure that lead is safe.

    #127630
    jforb
    Participant
    #127631
    Lebron
    Participant

    The NBA just signed a deal with MGM which, many agents believe, is going to lead to a huge influx of money going forward where they allow fans to bet on everything under the sun during games similar to what happens with soccer overseas. Meanwhile the NFL is now going to call an arbitrary penalty when someone tackles “wrong”. Doing a great job for that $40+ million there Roger.

    $25 million for 3 years.  MGM can use logos on oddsboards, highlights on the app they are developing and they get a direct data feed, whatever that is, from the NBA.  See what happens but chances are when this thing is up in 2021 it will be for even more money.  Rog is too busy coming up with great policies like what to do when a song is played and floating trial balloons with Pete on turning the league in to 2 hand touch.

    #127632
    BrianInLA
    Participant

    The great part of that MGM/NBA deal is that either party can agree to renegotiate at any time as they’re both sort of playing it by ear but also both realize a lot of money could start rolling in after a couple of years if things go well. If gambling gets legalized nationally there will be a zillion new apps and ways to bet on pro sports and both MGM and the NBA are going to be ahead of the curve whereas the NFL will more than likely fall all over themselves. I blame both Roger and the idiot billionaires who put/keep him in charge and who have zero awareness of the future somehow meanwhile trying to reign in player safety.

     

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