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    He’s so dumb:

    If the second team to possess the ball has the advantage of being able to use four downs, then it becomes a strategic point. Coaches would have to think whether they’d want to have the ball first or second. In my opinion, most coaches would still take it first. Let’s say Team A scores a touchdown and kicks the extra point for a seven-point lead, then Team B scores a touchdown on the next possession. Team B has the option of going for the PAT to tie, or going for two to try to end the game right there. So there’s drama to add to the suspense of the game. Say Team B chooses to kick the PAT and ties the game. Now Team A has the ball for the third possession of overtime … and now it is sudden death. All of that, in my opinion, makes it more interesting to mandate each team gets a minimum of one possession in overtime.

    There’s a lot more to this than his one little anecdotal example, which doesn’t even make that compelling an argument.

    You could argue coaches would choose to kick off. If they give up a TD, they get to match; they get all four downs to use vs. the first team’s three; if they stop them, a field goal wins; and if they hold them to a field goal, a touchdown wins. There’s almost no pressure on the defensive team on that first drive.

    Conversely,  if the offensive team fucks anything up on that first drive, they’re screwed. You’re building a reality where anything short of a touchdown is a failure.

    They’re trying to resolve a perceived competitive disadvantage with a certain one.

    Also, is the 10-minute time limit still in place in this proposal? No way a team is going to make a kick/ receive decision based on a scenario that’s unlikely to occur in a 10-minute period.

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    #138409

    Suzy
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    Swihart DFAd

    #138410

    Lebron
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    Pete and his ilk don’t want anyone to have an advantage ever.  “If you win the coin toss, that’s an advantage!  It’s unfair!”  What the fuckin’ fuck.  Should we play all games at neutral site fields with no fans in the stands and if Team A’s starting quarterback gets injured then Team B can’t play their starting quarterback, so no one has an advantage ever?  Does Bill have to sit down with every opposing coach and let him know what he found on film prior to kickoff, so he doesn’t have an advantage?  And even if you win the coin flip and take the ball, you still have to score a touchdown to end it.  On the flip side, the defense just has to prevent a touchdown.  So who has the ‘advantage’?

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    #138411

    Lebron
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    Swihart DFAd

    And Sandy Leon is starting tonight.

    #138413

    Suzy
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    Pete and his ilk don’t want anyone to have an advantage ever. “If you win the coin toss, that’s an advantage! It’s unfair!” What the fuckin’ fuck. Should we play all games at neutral site fields with no fans in the stands and if Team A’s starting quarterback gets injured then Team B can’t play their starting quarterback, so no one has an advantage ever? Does Bill have to sit down with every opposing coach and let him know what he found on film prior to kickoff, so he doesn’t have an advantage? And even if you win the coin flip and take the ball, you still have to score a touchdown to end it. On the flip side, the defense just has to prevent a touchdown. So who has the ‘advantage’?

    He’s too dumb and lazy to ever go that far with a thought. The phrase is overused but truly, a disgrace to his “profession.”

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    chicowalker
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    I missed the “when it’s fresh” part of his dunkin praise.  he was the definitely the asshole who asked when that pot was brewed, right? Was it 10 minutes ago or nine minutes, 47 seconds? I like to be precise

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    Claude45
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    I missed the “when it’s fresh” part of his dunkin praise. he was the definitely the asshole who asked when that pot was brewed, right? Was it 10 minutes ago or nine minutes, 47 seconds? I like to be precise

    King feels he’s better, more evolved, more humble and ethically stronger than anyone else. But the trait where this arrogant fucking douchebag really thinks he’s superior is his advanced palate. This idiot is sipping coffee, looking pensive while he contemplates freshness and earthy tones. Meanwhile, if Starbucks put a steaming cup of  shit, sugar and caramel in his hands and called it the Mocha Manhattan Transfer, he’d be guzzling them with both fists. I can’t imagine spending ten minutes in his presence without wanting to choke him out for the good of society and my sanity.

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    #138417

    BrianInLA
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    It all comes back to the current Trophy Generation where everyone thinks something is unfair. Grow up. Life is unfair. Sometimes you lose the coin toss and your defense shits the bed. Its life. Move on. These guys whining and complaining about everything under the sun except the main fault:  your defense sucked. Period.

     

     

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    Feejis
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    I like that Pete glosses over the “and now its sudden death” part. Isn’t sudden death the part you and yours have been saying is unfair?

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    #138419

    jforb
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    I like that Pete glosses over the “and now its sudden death” part. Isn’t sudden death the part you and yours have been saying is unfair?

    And as we point out every time, removing sudden death is the one thing they don’t seem to want to do.

    #138420

    Coma
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    I missed the “when it’s fresh” part of his dunkin praise. he was the definitely the asshole who asked when that pot was brewed, right? Was it 10 minutes ago or nine minutes, 47 seconds? I like to be precise

    I see you’re wearing a smart watch. How many steps is it from the counter to the coffee pot and back? I need it for my column.

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    #138421

    Feejis
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    I missed the “when it’s fresh” part of his dunkin praise. he was the definitely the asshole who asked when that pot was brewed, right? Was it 10 minutes ago or nine minutes, 47 seconds? I like to be precise

    There was a little breakfast place next to the store my dad owned when I was a kid. He’d send us over for a coffee a couple of times a day and always made sure to let us know to have them make a fresh pot.

    I was probably 10-11 when I figured out that they were pissed every time we asked that. So I stopped asking. If dad figured it out he never let on.

     

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    #138422

    chicowalker
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    Has anyone been shaped by their environment less than Fatty? He lives in Manhattan (I think.. :lol: ) and seems to spend time in SF/Seattle a decent amount- and if I saw/heard him, without context, I’d think Motherfucker only leaves Warwick for P-Bruins games

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    #138423

    Claude45
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    This fairness doctrine is maddening. Nothing is fair. Trying to make things fair is inherently unfair. The draft is unfair. Teams going different ways on an outdoor field at different times of the day is unfair. Injuries are unfair. Having different coaches coach different teams is unfair. Allowing bigger/faster players to play against smaller/slower players is unfair. Playing in different time zones is unfair. Playing indoors vs. outdoors is unfair. Goodell arbitrarily handing out suspensions that determines player availability is unfair. Having to travel to games is unfair. Having different crowds/stadiums is unfair. Having different referees is unfair.

    It’s not that difficult but the assholes at the NFL are so dumb they can’t help by make OT overly complicated. Unfair if you will. Play an extra timed period/quarter. Same rules as the rest of the game. The same rules you’ve been playing all along. Fair. Trying to be fair is a waste of time but this should at least shut them up. Give these babies in the media their pacifier and move on.

    #138424

    Coma
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    I had a more mundane complaint about PK’s column:

    When I was skimming through the “Things I Think I Think” section, his recommendation of the NYT story on the suicide of Olympic cyclist Kelly Catlin caught my eye. It’s a tragic story and I confess that I did not read it. What I did notice, though, was that this was “d” in his list of “other thoughts for the week.” Letters e, f, and g all had to do with the same story, going into more detail and including an excerpt. He then does the same thing for letters h, i, and j, all concerning an article memorializing Nipsey Hustle. PK’s final point is letter z. I looked at a couple of more recent columns and he doesn’t always have 26 “thoughts.” Sometimes, he makes it to “s,” sometimes to “y.” Why not just keep all his thoughts on the Catlin article and Hustle article under their own letter and go from there? If he’s spending time thinking about how he can complete the alphabet with separate “thoughts,” then it’s no wonder this takes him so much time. Why not just list them as bullet points? If you have 25 thoughts one week and 17 the next, who cares? If you want to expand on an article for a couple paragraphs, that’s fine, or if you want to point out the Jose Altuve is a great player, that works, too.

    I guess I’m glad I haven’t been reading PK closely, because I never noticed this before. It seems like one of those things that’s important to him, but is ultimately meaningless.

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    #138425

    Lebron
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    I had assumed Demaryius Thomas was done or mostly done with the Achilles injury and flipping his car at 70 mph.

    #138426

    Lefty
    Moderator

    He was only “mostly dead.”

    #138427

    Big Fat O
    Participant

    Things I learned today On my way home..

    Wiggy got a RS WS ring for working at NESN and it bothered Futility Lou

    The Bruins are D U N. No way they can ever recover from the painful Game  6 loss. It’s only game 3? Could have fooled me.

    BB signing broken down players to say money.

    For whatever reason the Celtics flew under the radar today.

    #138428

    Canadian Soldier
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    This is the post that WordPress ate earlier today. I have to dictate it, otherwise WordPress will think it’s spam.

    So, what should Patriots fans demand? Win the Super Bowl?

    Red Sox fans? Win the World Series?

    Celtics fans? Come within a game of the NBA finals?

    That is exactly what those teams delivered in their most recent full seasons.

    Let’s translate this Shankism: it’s the writers and talking heads and talk show hosts and lunatic-fringe callers to the shows who are demanding being indulged with storrrrry-lines, and “access,” and free breakfasts, and ego strokes. They want their fantasies like “The cap is crap” to be reality.

    Winning? Oh, yeah, that would be nice, too.

    And if the Red Sox continue to suck and miss the postseason, or lose in the wild card game or ALDS, if the Patriots have a hiccup or two as they rebuild their team after Gronk, and if the Celtics don’t get as far this spring as they did last spring … that’s called reality because the highest levels of professional sports are more competitive than those hacks could ever understand, and winning is very hard. (And therefore the championships that these teams did achieve are worth much more than they think they are.)

    After all, when your only competition is Glenny and Fauria and Futility Lou — or whoever is the lead columnist for the Herald these days; is there still a Herald these days?  — you can talk yourself into thinking that you’re better than you really are and that it’s easy to win (the most recent ratings book, or that meaningless honor from the New England Sportswriters Association) … because, frankly, it is.

     

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    #138429

    Humphrey
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    I guess Sandy Leon was not the answer to the Sox staff’s woes, not that Swihart is going to be missed that much.

    #138430

    02062
    Participant

    Imagine what Bill would do to the other 31 if he didn’t have a salary cap?

     

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    #138431

    Yahtzee
    Participant

    Even with the risk that Albert Breer is latching on, I’m delighting in the idea of CBJ sweeping Tampa.

    Oh, and the Sox could lose 90 games this year.

    #138432

    Turd Furguson
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    I thought both the Lightning and Penguins series would he sweeps.   Had no idea they could go the other way

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    #138433

    Turd Furguson
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    Even with the risk that Albert Breer is latching on, I’m delighting in the idea of CBJ sweeping Tampa.

    Oh, and the Sox could lose 90 games this year.

    I don’t know if it’s because I’m older or if I have ADD but I can’t seem to care about the start of one season until the playoffs of another are done.    For the moment I’m 100% Stanley cup playoffs

    #138434

    Yahtzee
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    That’s almost always my perspective.

    College football in August, blech.

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