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  • #81544

    Marty Nopointe
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    Saw Guerrera does seem senile, as I understand it he’s a Clone Wars character, but my kid has seen maybe 5 episodes of that series so I don’t know much about it. Star Wars Rebels on the other hand – the MVP corvette (that was awesome) is from there, the main ship Ghost shows up twice, and one of the characters is paged over a loudspeaker on Yavin 4.

    #81553

    Dan
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    Saw it with the boy and my dad this afternoon – thought it was really good, just short of great.  The first hour or so was surprisingly flat, but the last hour was great.  CGI Tarkin was shockingly good, CGI Leia a little less so.  The Hammerhead Corvette scene was awesome, and the boy enjoyed the SW: Rebels call-outs.  The C3PO/R2 scene was unnecessary.  I thought the Chirrut scene as he walked to the master switch with all of the blaster bolts missing him was the closest to a goosebump scene in the movie.  Vader at the end was bad-ass.

    #81566

    RedSeat
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    I really liked it, but I came in predisposed to do so. I really wanted a movie set in this time period ever since they announced the prequels. Was very disappointed that II and III were set so close together. So while TFA is almost definitely a better story, I may have enjoyed this one more, since it’s a story I’ve been waiting to see.

    #81567

    Kevin
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    It really makes me like TFA more. I feel like every character in TFA has more depth than in this one.

    Jyn goes from not giving a shit about anyone then once her father dies she’s suddenly giving inspiring speeches about hope?

    I needed more Mikkelsen/Mendelsohn. Those two actors are awesome, but there’s not nearly enough screen time about their history. Krennic kills all his people but spares him, why?

    You hardly learn anything about Andor, or why those guys want to follow him.

    #81570

    Doncabesa
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    It really makes me like TFA more. I feel like every character in TFA has more depth than in this one. Jyn goes from not giving a shit about anyone then once her father dies she’s suddenly giving inspiring speeches about hope? I needed more Mikkelsen/Mendelsohn. Those two actors are awesome, but there’s not nearly enough screen time about their history. Krennic kills all his people but spares him, why? You hardly learn anything about Andor, or why those guys want to follow him.

    Sounds like Gareth Reynolds Edwards film, he’s not great at character development.

    *the dollop co-host didn’t direct it.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 12 months ago by  Doncabesa.
    #81584

    Dan
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    It really makes me like TFA more. I feel like every character in TFA has more depth than in this one. Jyn goes from not giving a shit about anyone then once her father dies she’s suddenly giving inspiring speeches about hope? I needed more Mikkelsen/Mendelsohn. Those two actors are awesome, but there’s not nearly enough screen time about their history. Krennic kills all his people but spares him, why? You hardly learn anything about Andor, or why those guys want to follow him.

    I agree.  Andor had that one scene where he mentioned he and those guys all did stuff they weren’t proud of for the Rebellion – spies, assassins, etc., but that was pretty thin motivation.

    #81588

    Marty Nopointe
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    Andor did kill the informant so he couldn’t be captured by the stormtroopers, so at least one of his ‘things he wasn’t proud of’ appeared in the movie. I guess we’re just meant to assume the others did similar things.

    Jyn didn’t start caring just because her father died, first she found out why he did what he did, and his redemption in the Death Star flaw. She was living under Imperial tyranny her whole life thinking he was part of it. Girl grows up in war, wants no part of it, Imperial bigwig father finds redemption through his kid, dies, gets left behind on exploding Imperial facility. Next movie starts with a boy growing up in peace (more like boredom), wants war, goes on to redeem his Imperial bigwig father who he has to leave behind on exploding Imperial facility.

    ed – “wants no part of it” isn’t right, she had enough of it already, if she was Gerrera’s best fighter by 16 she must have started fighting at an earlier age, so she was forced into a cause before she was old enough to make that decision, left, rejoined when she was older and found it to be the right thing

    #81593

    Kevin
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    Good points. Maybe there should have been more Gerrera and young Jyn scenes to flesh that relationship out more other than just him finding her in a hole and a flashback to him finding her in a hole.

    #81595

    Marty Nopointe
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    watched some of the trailers again, apparently the reshoots changed Forrest Whitaker from bald to crazy hobo haired

    Did that come from the Disney execs?


    Director: So that’s the movie, we’re pretty happy with it.
    Disney VP1: It’s missing something though
    Disney VP2: That Darth Vader guy without the helmet why is he bald?
    Director: That .. that isn’t Darth Va..
    Disney VP1: But he’s bald
    Disney VP2: That’s what I’m saying
    Chinese marketing consultant: Bald black guy, looks like Vader’s helmet.
    Director: So .. you want him to have hair?
    Disney VP2: That would be the opposite of bald.
    Director: The reshoots would cost millions
    Disney VP1: What if he had crazy Hobo hair?
    Disney VP2: Genius

    #81597

    InThisTown
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    Wonder if it was maybe because people are dumb and they wouldn’t have figured out the time lapse otherwise? That definitely seems like a studio note.

    #81601

    Kevin
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    There has to be a Funny or Die or Robot Chicken like sketch coming about the life of Darth Vader’s butler, right?

    #81617

    Marty Nopointe
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    There has to be a Funny or Die or Robot Chicken like sketch coming about the life of Darth Vader’s butler, right?

    I find your lack of a fish fork on the table disturbing

    #81869

    Kevin
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    There has to be a Funny or Die or Robot Chicken like sketch coming about the life of Darth Vader’s butler, right?

    I find your lack of a fish fork on the table disturbing

    Lord Vader, I know how busy you’ve been lately, but the Emperor has approved your vacation request. Sir, I took the liberty of booking you a hotel suite at a beautiful resort on Alderaan.

    On where?!? Do not tell me my deposit is non-refundable. You have failed me for the last time!

    #82056

    InThisTown
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    I’ve actually grown less fond of it over the last few days. TFA stayed with me, thinking about it. This didn’t really in any way. I fear the future dilution of the franchise will be similar to this. Like HOW could a young Solo pic resonate given what Harrison Ford did with the character?

    #82059

    Kevin
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    I’ve actually grown less fond of it over the last few days. TFA stayed with me, thinking about it. This didn’t really in any way. I fear the future dilution of the franchise will be similar to this. Like HOW could a young Solo pic resonate given what Harrison Ford did with the character?

    Easy solution: young digital Harrison Ford voiced by current Harrison Ford.

    #82061

    Kevin
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    The Empire’s data storage management is pretty shaky.

    Sorry Lord Vader, we can’t get you Penske File because the robot arm malfunctioned and dropped it down the bottomless pit.

    #82170

    God Shamgod
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    I’ve actually grown less fond of it over the last few days. TFA stayed with me, thinking about it. This didn’t really in any way. I fear the future dilution of the franchise will be similar to this. Like HOW could a young Solo pic resonate given what Harrison Ford did with the character?

    i went the other way actually. i thought the potential for it being a steaming pile of shit was enormous and it delivered with making the symbolic 10 foot putt. I think the feel and the tie-ins to New Hope were impressive.

    I think i’m going with tie for TFA and Rogue. They still lag behind IV-VI for me. VI will always be rated high b/c in 1983 when that came out, that was an event and i left the theatre so friggin happy how the story was tied up. Looking back at it, I see the flaws but at the time it was fantastic.

    I’m hoping that the product isn’t watered down but i’m all for a complete Nolan reboot of 1-3. Make it one movie, 3 hours long and see how it looks with proper direction.

    #82559

    Kevin
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    Wouldn’t it have been easier for Vader to Forcegrab the floppy disk rather than toss fifteen helmet guys around a hallway?

    #82580

    Callahardfoul
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    Wouldn’t it have been easier for Vader to Forcegrab the floppy disk rather than toss fifteen helmet guys around a hallway?

    I’ve thought about that roughly 1,000 times since I saw the movie.  How far away can he do the hand forcy shit?

    #82581

    Dan
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    Wouldn’t it have been easier for Vader to Forcegrab the floppy disk rather than toss fifteen helmet guys around a hallway?

    I’ve thought about that roughly 1,000 times since I saw the movie. How far away can he do the hand forcy shit?

    At what point did the rebel stick the disk through the crack in the door?  It was pretty dark in the hallway, maybe Vader didn’t see the disk or thought it had already been passed through?

    #82592

    Kevin
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    Wouldn’t it have been easier for Vader to Forcegrab the floppy disk rather than toss fifteen helmet guys around a hallway?

    I’ve thought about that roughly 1,000 times since I saw the movie. How far away can he do the hand forcy shit?

    At what point did the rebel stick the disk through the crack in the door? It was pretty dark in the hallway, maybe Vader didn’t see the disk or thought it had already been passed through?

    Very possible he doesn’t know anyone in that hallway has it. Then again, he can kinda read minds. Another thing he can do: freeze people in their tracks. Both would have helped retrieve the disc.

    Neither is as fun as hacking motherfuckers to pieces, though. :lol:

    #82595

    Marty Nopointe
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    Vader is keeping the door from opening right? It’s open just a bit too small for a person because he wants to toy with them, to make it more terrorizing to those in the air lock and those outside. As soon as he kills the last rebel – stabbing through the door in the process – the door opens. He either opened it or let it open, either way he was keeping it barely open through the fight, and stabbing people, force choking, force lifting/body slamming and deflecting blaster bolts at the same time. Force mind reading takes more concentration in the movies when it’s used.

    I don’t think the empire knew about the disk, they thought the blockade runner received a transmission. Urgency in stopping them is why Vader was fighting onto the ship himself. When they disable the Tantive in IV and have all the time in the world, he lets the stormtroopers do the work.

    #82974

    Saw it tonight. Today’s events certainly added more emotional swell for the final scene. It was quite affecting.

    #82977

    Dan
    Participant

    We saw it again today and I liked it a lot more the second time.  I liked Erso and Andor better as characters this time, especially Andor.  The people in the theater laughed more at K2-S0 for some reason.  The final half hour is really fantastic, and CGI Leia didn’t bother me as much as the first viewing.  My son really got it this time that they all died.

    #83345

    Coma
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    I really liked the way the end tied into the beginning of Episode IV, but now I’m wondering how the Empire was able to start building a second Death Star? All the engineers behind the first one were killed in this movie, plus the plans were stolen and installation where they were stored was destroyed. The best explanation I can think of was that the second one already under construction when the first was destroyed.

    #83359

    Marty Nopointe
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    Vader’s butler is supposedly one of these guys

    #83759

    Larry Legend
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    #84444

    Feejis
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    Wouldn’t it have been easier for Vader to Forcegrab the floppy disk rather than toss fifteen helmet guys around a hallway?

    I’ve thought about that roughly 1,000 times since I saw the movie. How far away can he do the hand forcy shit?

    At what point did the rebel stick the disk through the crack in the door? It was pretty dark in the hallway, maybe Vader didn’t see the disk or thought it had already been passed through?

    Very possible he doesn’t know anyone in that hallway has it. Then again, he can kinda read minds. Another thing he can do: freeze people in their tracks. Both would have helped retrieve the disc. Neither is as fun as hacking motherfuckers to pieces, though. 😆

    Cerrano took the disc.

    #84725

    Major Intangibles
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    Just saw it. I understand your parsecs may vary, but I liked it better than TFA.

    Nothing will be saved. All will be lost. And our new onion-headed sad emoticon is unable to convey the depth of that loss. -10/22/25 (sic) Daily Thread

    #94714

    InThisTown
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    #96018

    Marty Nopointe
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    Watching the blu-ray

    the Imwe kills a bunch of stormtroopers scene – shows stormtrooper armor can protect against their own weapons at least some of the time, also Imwe may be wearing a stormtrooper belt as a bandolier, possible nod to 4

    #96019

    Marty Nopointe
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    watched again, pretty sure the only stormtrooper on stormtrooper kills are to the neck, on the bodysuit and not armor

    When they’re hit in the helmet visor it’s accompanied by smashing glass side effect.

    It’s an incredibly tidy movie, not only avoids plot holes but goes out of it’s way to close holes opened in a 40 year old movie. This is masterful

    #96021

    Marty Nopointe
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    Jeebus, that Sol’s hideout scene echoes the emperor’s throne room on DS2 in 6 so well, right to the explosion. So good, so f’n good. The window, the eclipse, DAMN

    ed – the ‘more machine than man’ mirroring for Sol was noted long ago, but it’s so great, Sol’s her adoptive father not birth this time, he wants to stay behind this time, the redemption line, it echoes 6 so well, instead it’s her substitute father sacrificing himself instead of his birth father sacrificing himself, wanting to die because his mission has ended, it’s a near perfect mirror image to 4 or really 4-6

    just fantastic

    #96173

    Kevin
    Participant

    I’ve been watching the Star Wars Rebels cartoons with my kid (truth be told, I have to talk him into it sometimes over Paw Patrol :lol: ) and the two-part season finale they just did is legitimately better than any of Lucas’ prequels.

    Also Darth Maul survives Phantom Menace (gets robotic legs) and turns out to be a great character with a long storyline where he searches the universe for Obi-Wan so he can get revenge while also being tossed aside by the Emperor.

    So much better than the mute nothingburger he was in TPM.

    #96230

    Doncabesa
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    I’ve been watching the Star Wars Rebels cartoons with my kid (truth be told, I have to talk him into it sometimes over Paw Patrol 😆 ) and the two-part season finale they just did is legitimately better than any of Lucas’ prequels. Also Darth Maul survives Phantom Menace (gets robotic legs) and turns out to be a great character with a long storyline where he searches the universe for Obi-Wan so he can get revenge while also being tossed aside by the Emperor. So much better than the mute nothingburger he was in TPM.

    Yeah, those prequel cartoons have been fantastic. Watched them with the kids as well and was shocked at how well written they were.

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