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  • #24684

    InThisTown
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    #24779

    Lebron
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    Here’s a link from a guy who claims to have seen it at the theater this AM in the Philippines.  He mixes up the characters a bit, namely Rey/Ren and Rey/Finn.  You have to scroll down a bit as he is warning the reader it is the plot of the movie so bail out if you don’t want to read.

    I’m like Lefty in that I’ll likely never get to the theater for it anyhow.

    https://www.topmiles.com/blog/article/12/-spoiler–the-complete-plot-of-star-wars–the-force-awakens-episode-7

     

     

    #25092

    InThisTown
    Participant

    I really liked it. Completely enjoyable.

    The good:

    The new people are all great.  Like really great.

    It was funny.

    Saving Luke until the last shot with the hood reveal and the Force Theme was a perfect ending.

    It looked amazing.

    Saber fight in the snow.

    The Ren-Hux relationship had more texture than Vader and Tarkin.

     

    The meh:

    Harrison Ford is doing a Han Solo impression. If Han were a beaten down sitcom husband. It’s good they killed him    .

    It was funny but almost too quippy.

    Leia’s dentures.

    Campy Chewie.

    Even 3PO felt a bit stale.

    Not wild about Snoke thus far.

    Fan service was over the top. Oh look an AT AT, hey it’s a star destroyer and now they’re playing Dejarik.

     

    All minor gripes of course.  The end with Luke is the most powerful moment of all the movies so far for me, on par with the binary sunset from IV.

     

    #25093

    chicowalker
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    YARITT. I thought I’d hate Adam driver, and that there was no way I could take him seriously w helmet off, but I was wrong. Couple of audible gasps when Han bought it despite Abrams tipping his hand fierce w the long shot of the bridge

    #25095

    Larry Legend
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    I’d echo everything above.  I knew things were not going to end well for the scruffy looking nerf herder going back to Leia’s speech to bring Ren home. Whoops.

     

    I was pretty skeptical about BB8 before seeing the movies, but they actually did a good job with him. Not too cute. Certainly no Jar Jar.

    My 6 year old didn’t like Luke being saved until the end (Luke is his favorite), but I don’t think that part was geared to the 6 year olds in the audience.

    Loved Boyega and Ridley. They really did a fine job and Abrams did them a great service by making them someone you root for early on.  It was to the point where Han seems almost extraneous to the story so you don’t mind him meeting his end… until of course you realize HAN FUCKING SOLO JUST DIED.

    Did Carrie Fisher have a stroke somewhere along the way?  I’ve seen her in interviews sounding odd, but man she’s had a long road to get here.

    Completely agree about Adam Driver. The most I had seen him in was that less than great Jason Bateman-Tina Fey movie, and I sure as shit wasn’t watching Girls. That scene with him and Rey where she turns the tables on him was really well done by Driver.

    For a second, I wondered if we’d even get a shot of Luke, but thank god they did. It really put a fine ending to the movie.

    My 9 year old is pissed he has to wait until May of 2017.  He wants more Star Wars and he wants it now. I don’t think Rogue One is going to satisfy him either.

     

    #25102

    InThisTown
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    We’re paying out on “Rey is his daughter” aren’t we?

    #25109

    Larry Legend
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    We’re paying out on “Rey is his daughter” aren’t we?

    Got to.

     

    #25111

    chicowalker
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    I loved how much more fluid the storm troopers were. And much more visceral when someone was shot/something blew up

    #25124

    God Shamgod
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    Didn’t realize we created this sand box. I echo everything everyone is saying but I actually was a fan of Solo in this one. I had such bad visions of his atrocious Indy performance that i felt like he exceeded my expectations for him. He was legitimately funny at points.

    Rey was fantastic and the last scene was just jaw dropping awesome like ITT said.

    I actually thought JJ would go for even more cheap shoutouts to the prior trilogy.

    #25128

    God Shamgod
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    We paying out on Finn being Lando’s son or Mace’s son? He did know how to handle a light saber very capably. It would be pretty funny to make the new black guy the offspring of the old black guys.

     

    #25150

    Larry Legend
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    Didn’t realize we created this sand box. I echo everything everyone is saying but I actually was a fan of Solo in this one. I had such bad visions of his atrocious Indy performance that i felt like he exceeded my expectations for him. He was legitimately funny at points. Rey was fantastic and the last scene was just jaw dropping awesome like ITT said. I actually thought JJ would go for even more cheap shoutouts to the prior trilogy.

    I don’t mind the callbacks, but I’m a nostalgia whore.  Back me up here ITT.

    Maybe I was too harsh on Harrison Ford above. There were many good moments, but I felt like the end was coming for him.

     

    As for Finn…  we’re obviously setting up a situation where Rey and Ren are meant to provide balance to the Force, but I don’t know how that manifests itself in Finn. Not sure if it is a familial tie (like Mace Windu) or something else. We know he wasn’t a clone and was taken from his family, but who knows which family that is. It would seem odd the First Order/Empire wouldn’t know the Windu family. I could see a tie to the Calrissians but no Force in that family either that we know of… though a Creed-like relationship is possible.

    Perhaps this Force awakening been a catalyst of Force powers in those whose abilities were dormant?

     

     

    #25153

    Anonymous

    Liked it, a bit of a mess as they’re setting up for the next 2 movies, but if it had run 5 hours I would have happily sat through it all.

     

    Big change on this movie from the prequels is that they actually built sets for this one. You know, people could run around things and walk through stuff and it opened up. As opposed to walking 20 feet and then sitting on a chair or something.

     

    Seeing Han and Leia, I wish they had made these movies 10 years ago. A little long in the tooth, but still enjoyed seeing old friends.

     

    Of course, have to see it again in January with a group of other people. Will probably go the IMAX route.  Last night was just me and the family, and the audience was subdued. Not sure why.

    #25165

    God Shamgod
    Participant

    Of course, have to see it again in January with a group of other people. Will probably go the IMAX route.  Last night was just me and the family, and the audience was subdued. Not sure why.

    this was a big takeaway for me too. There was a few nerds trying to get an applause going and it went nowhere. I was living in London when the re-release of a New Hope came out and it was like a standing ovation when the opening scene started.

    I think star wars fans are rape victims in a way. The prequels removed any assumption of quality in these movies. I think JJ, for all the minor quips i do have about the movie, removed. Episode 8 can take some chances IMO now with a new director, a good story unfolding, etc.

    I went home happy and ready to see it again. That to me is mission accomplished.

    #25169

    chicowalker
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    My crowd the same way. It was half nervous/half reverent. Not at all boisterous (which was fine w me)

     

    LL I think you and my brother would be great friends  :lol:  (re nostalgia whoredom)

    #25178

    InThisTown
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    I watched in Boston so it was loud applause for many parts. I think the opening fanfare, the Falcon, and R2 got the biggest cheers.

    #25180

    chicowalker
    Participant

    The real question itt is how many times did you tear up?  :ohmy:   :lol:

    #25189

    InThisTown
    Participant

    The real question itt is how many times did you tear up? :ohmy: :lol:

    Really not at all, it wasn’t what I was expecting from that standpoint.  The final scene I had to bite my lip a little, there was a whole childhood/parenthood thing going on there.  But holy fuck the goosebumps on that last scene.  WOW.

    #25190

    Larry Legend
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    I watched in Boston so it was loud applause for many parts. I think the opening fanfare, the Falcon, and R2 got the biggest cheers.

    Same in Saco, but I suspect every big time nerd in Maine(present company included) would be at the only IMAX in the state.

     

    We had guy doing Chewbacca and another with a Jawa “wooteedee”.

    #25198

    God Shamgod
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    Really not at all, it wasn’t what I was expecting from that standpoint.  The final scene I had to bite my lip a little, there was a whole childhood/parenthood thing going on there.  But holy fuck the goosebumps on that last scene.  WOW.

    i’ve been scouring the interwebs looking for the youtube of that final scene. it was everything and more.

    #25202

    InThisTown
    Participant

    Disney released the score on youtube

    https://www.youtube.com/user/DisneyMusicVEVO/videos

    The Jedi Steps  :wub:   :wub:

    #25224

    Larry Legend
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    Disney released the score on youtube https://www.youtube.com/user/DisneyMusicVEVO/videos The Jedi Steps :wub: :wub:

    Goosebumps.

    #25268

    BSF34
    Participant

    Saw it this and really liked it. Where would u rank it among the Star Wars movie? For me, it’s definitely better than the prequels and Return of the Jedi but behind IV and V.

     

    EDIT: Me fail telling time

    Wait, what?

    #25269

    Feejis
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    Saw it earlier today in 3D (not Imax as the times didn’t work for my schedule). My first 3D movie so pretty cool in that respect but echo what ITT and others said about it being well shot. I mean, the technology is so much greater now that it couldn’t be anything but awesome but it certainly delivered in that respect.

    One minor quibble was how the scene in the bar basement developed with Rey and Luke’s lightsaber. I’d have to watch those flashbacks again a few times to really grasp what she was witnessing but I’m guessing it was Luke’s perspective on Ren and his others turning on him, and then Luke watching as he dropped her off to be safe elsewhere?

    Think Finn may be just a guy, but who knows. Abrams seemed to go out of his way to make the cast, including the background cast as diverse as possible. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that). Certainly presumptive on my part to presume the black guy was related to prior black guys but I don’t think he exhibited any signs of being a jedi. He may just be the guy they cast for that character – this version’s “outsider” like Han.

    Theater was pretty empty though. 11:30 showing. Big crowds as I was coming out though.

    #25271

    BSF34
    Participant

    When Han called out to Kylo, did he say “Ben”?

    Wait, what?

    #25273

    InThisTown
    Participant

    Yes. Ben Solo. Nice touch.

     

    As a film I think it’s pretty close to IV but if you really think about what IV did and set up and introduced it’s really fucking amazing.  It was great and has a deserving place in the top 3, wherever that might be.

    #25275

    BSF34
    Participant

    From watching this movie and the prequels, it looks like the emo douchebag gene skipped a generation in the Skywalker family.

    Wait, what?

    #25276

    Feejis
    Participant

    Also, we’re to assume Ren is not dead, correct?

    #25278

    InThisTown
    Participant

    I am still trying to figure out the flashes there Feejis and what they all were.

    Based on what we know:
    – Luke is training Kylo and he kills all the other padawams, preventing the return of the Jedi order.
    – Luke goes into seclusion so he has to leave Rey with foster parents or something? (why not with Leia is another question – too dangerous, I would assume) I think age wise the math probably works out to Rey not being able to have any real memory of her real father and Ren being old enough to kill em all.

    As an aside I was prepared to dislike Maz but thought the character was very good.

    #25281

    BSF34
    Participant

    Well we’re kind of conditioned here to hate anyone named “Maz”

     

    You’re absolutely right, Han.

    Wait, what?

    #25282

    InThisTown
    Participant

    Also, we’re to assume Ren is not dead, correct?

    Yeah no chance.

    #25289

    BSF34
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    I am still trying to figure out the flashes there Feejis and what they all were. Based on what we know: – Luke is training Kylo and he kills all the other padawams, preventing the return of the Jedi order. – Luke goes into seclusion so he has to leave Rey with foster parents or something? (why not with Leia is another question – too dangerous, I would assume) I think age wise the math probably works out to Rey not being able to have any real memory of her real father and Ren being old enough to kill em all. As an aside I was prepared to dislike Maz but thought the character was very good.

    Adam Driver is about 10 years older than Daisy Ridley. Makes sense if it turns out Kylo turned to the darkside as a teenager and it ended up having Luke give up Rey at that time and she was a toddler.

    Wait, what?

    #25290

    Larry Legend
    Participant

    I am still trying to figure out the flashes there Feejis and what they all were. Based on what we know: – Luke is training Kylo and he kills all the other padawams, preventing the return of the Jedi order. – Luke goes into seclusion so he has to leave Rey with foster parents or something? (why not with Leia is another question – too dangerous, I would assume) I think age wise the math probably works out to Rey not being able to have any real memory of her real father and Ren being old enough to kill em all. As an aside I was prepared to dislike Maz but thought the character was very good.

    Does Rey kill Luke’s wife?

    Is Luke away from his family because he sees the conflict in Rey/Ben and is concerned for his daughter’s safety (TCF 2.0?)

    Does Luke orchestrate some of this… turning on R2 until the right moment.. from afar? There’s a pretty interesting site I saw that says that it wasn’t the Force Choke or whatever from Anakin that kills Padme, but rather it was the Emperor stealing Padme’s lifeforce to keep Anakin alive and construct Vader.  This isn’t on that level, but it made me think about control from across the galaxy…. perhaps Luke has something like that?

    Yer absolutely right… about Maz. But that’s the difference between the restraint Abrams showed and where Lucas lost his marbles.

    #25291

    BSF34
    Participant

    I’m also thinking that Snoke is probably Yoda sized. Has a Napoleon complex which is why he appears much larger than everyone else during his hologram communications with Kylo.

    Wait, what?

    #25301

    chicowalker
    Participant

    Who was max? Rens general buddy?

    #25303

    Lebron
    Participant

    Well we’re kind of conditioned here to hate anyone named “Maz” You’re absolutely right, Han.

    What’s with these Jedi masters, always go into hiding when the going gets tough.  First YOU couldn’t handle the Empire now YOU can’t handle the First Order.  They think they’re smarter than everyone.  What a bunch of divas.  They suck.

    #25307

    Tommyfw
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    Harrison Ford is 72 and looks 72.  Carrie Fisher is 59 and looks 72.  She also sounded like a 3-pack a day smoker.

    That movie was phenomenal.  Easily top 3 and I am thinking top 2 for me.  The quibbles were minor (as mentioned above) but overall…can’t even begin to describe the emotions when Han died.  I expected it, thought I was prepared for it…and then immediately after it happened I almost lost it.

    Finn and Rey showed real chemistry together.

    Finn and Han played well off each other even if it was a little campy.

    One minor quibble for me is Gwendolyn Christie not getting enough screen time or really showing off Phasma.  Hoping she will be back in VIII.

    Disney is getting good at “here, take my money” type movies.

    #25309

    Feejis
    Participant

    Wonder why they made Boyega ditch the accent for his role but basically let all the other British actors keep theirs.

    Also, why so many British actors?

    #25311

    InThisTown
    Participant
    #25320

    Callahardfoul
    Participant

    Seeing it Sunday, but had the whole thing spoiled for me anyway. I’m told if you look close, Luke is looking at a gravestone when Rey approaches him. I’ll check for it, but any thoughts on that?

    #25331

    Gimp
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    Saw it last night with my sister in Stonington CT. 10:30 pm show had 15 people in the theater.
    Literally had tears in my eyes as the opening logo hit the screen.  It’s been well discussed here, so I’ll just add a few thoughts.
    Just an incredible movie. JJ Abrams had an impossible task, and I think he struck the perfect balance between nostalgia and newness. As far as I’m concerned, he crushed it.
    I did sort of miss the 20th Century Fox logo and music at the beginning. Was always a prelude to the theme.
    Obvious goosebumps when they showed the Falcon for the first time.
    What really got me on board early was the smug dooshiness of Hux and the First Order staff officers.
    The Han and Chewie and the Han and Leia stuff was handled OK.
    A little thing for me-when everyone gets back from blowing up Starkiller base, Chewie walks right by Leia after Han has died. No hug for the Wookie?
    They should have explained why, of all the people in the resistance, Rey goes to find Luke. Seemed a tad random from a story point of view-makes sense as his potential daughter but isn’t explained.
    The last scene was breath-taking.  And the music from The Jedi Steps gave me chills.

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    #25335

    BSF34
    Participant

    Going to other boards on the inta-web, the main criticism from some is that it felt more like a remake of A New Hope than a sequel.

    Wait, what?

    #25353

    Joe Rudi
    Participant

    Fucking loved that thing. As has been noted by others upthread after the several months I had to spend talking myself into thinking ep 1 wasn’t a load of crap, my expectations were low so I’m sure a second viewing will temper my enthusiasm. The raw number of callbacks were probably too high (and I get the “remake of ANH, not a sequel” critique) but enough of them hit home that I didn’t really care. The Falcon reveal was really obvious in hindsight but that whole scene including the battle was just really well put together IMO.

    They are no doubt helped by having non-Lucas dialogue but I thought both Fin and Rey were really great (I have studiously avoided reading anything about this so I don’t know names of any actors who weren’t on Hoth together).

    I went with my 10 yo daughter and a friend of hers. They flat out do not believe me that the same actress is playing Princess Leia in this one :lol:

    Pretty great crowd for a 9:30 am show. Pops in all the right places which actually helped my daughter ask me about things she forgot from the first movies.

    #25360

    Dan
    Participant

    Saw it with my son (7) and my dad this afternoon.  I thought it was great.  It was fan service, but incredibly well done fan service.  I got surprisingly emotional with the beginning crawl, the Falcon reveal, R2, and Luke at the end.  Nostalgia is a powerful thing and Abrams and Kasdan are manipulative bastards.   :lol:  Even though I knew it was coming, it was still shocking to see Han run through with the lightsaber.  I thought the new cast really impressive.

    My son was really upset that Luke only showed up at the end.  Every 7-year old wants to be Luke Skywalker.  :smile:

    #25390

    Jason
    Participant

    saw it Friday morning 9:45 in revere and loved every second of it. Going again later this week at Jordan’s imax. I was really surprised Luke was only in it for about 30 seconds can’t wait for the next one.

    #25398

    Dan
    Participant

    Potentially dumb question:  when the First Order used the Starkiller Base weapon, did they destroy the New Republic home planet?  It wasn’t clear to me which planets they were destroying.

    #25542

    Danny Duberstein
    Participant

    It was like having my childhood back.

     

    Loved all the practical effects.

    #25560

    Hacksaw
    Participant

    Han using Chewies crossbow for the first time was pretty cool. The guy loved it using it over his own weapon.

    #25584

    Doncabesa
    Participant

    Just back from seeing it.    Absolutely loved it, can’t wait to see where they go with the story.

    #25635

    Callahardfoul
    Participant

    WARNING: Hot take coming.

    I think it is as good as any of them, in no small part because it was visually stunning. Loved it. I’m a little biased because I brought my 5 year old son who had 6 or 7 spaz out excitement moments, which was awesome for me.

    The arc here has to be similar to ESB, though, right? The First Order was basically destroyed other than wherever Snoke was, with Hux and Ren.

    #25646

    I went to see it last night and was very impressed. I love the new characters and it is so much better than the shitty prequels. I didn’t mind Harrison Ford’s performance, but I think it looks good due to the last horrible Indy movie.

    As others have said, the last scene with Luke is incredible and I can’t wait to see what happens with his character in the next movie.

    I’m excited to see how Star Wars Land turns out at Disney’s parks.

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