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  • #27271

    Dan
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    The Daniel Craig cameo is pretty funny as well.

    #27413

    Lebron
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    So Lucas goes from calling Disney white slavers to saying they’re doing a great job :lol:

    #27425

    Doncabesa
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    http://movieweb.com/star-wars-force-awakens-script-answers/

     

    good script/novel breakdown to fill in some gaps.

    #27529

    Major Intangibles
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    Saw it last night. I liked it, I guess. To the good, no one called anyone ‘bantha fodder’, and the whole production was 50% less Abrams-y that his terrible take on the Star Trek movies. And for all the Mary Sue accusations hurled at the Rey character, there was one thing she wasn’t an instant expert at: scavenging.
    But there were too many ‘memba this? scenes for my liking. And c’mon, there should have been a squadron of Y-wings there for the assault on the capacitor, or oscillator, or whatever.

    Nothing will be saved. All will be lost. And our new onion-headed sad emoticon is unable to convey the depth of that loss. -10/22/25 (sic) Daily Thread

    #27534

    Marty Nopointe
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    Y wings were obsolete in the original trilogy! A-wings on the other hand, they should’ve been there.

    #27542

    Kevin
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    Just got out of bringing my three year old. What was his favorite part? “Darth Vader’s mask”. You and me both, buddy.

    He also made me laugh out loud when Leia came on, and he said, “What happened to her face?” :lol:

    Thought the closing scene was even better the second time. Mark Hamill was worth whatever they paid him do work one day. He doesn’t need to say anything, his eyes do everything.

    #27544

    BSF34
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    #27558

    Major Intangibles
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    see also;

    Nothing will be saved. All will be lost. And our new onion-headed sad emoticon is unable to convey the depth of that loss. -10/22/25 (sic) Daily Thread

    #27563

    Kevin
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    #27564

    Kevin
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    #27581

    Mark
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    the only thing that annoyed me was solo and Leia kept using the term “our son” over and over in conversation. He’s got a name, no matter how much coke you’ve done Princess

    When Maz offers up the light saber in the basement I figured Rey as a Skywalker was a Lockadini.

    I think that as we move into the next movies you’ll get less cliff notes cues and the story will stay within its own space. Abrams seemed to be a little too deferential in putting that in there but it didn’t detract from what I thought was an excellent movie.

    #27584

    Dan
    Participant

    the only thing that annoyed me was solo and Leia kept using the term “our son” over and over in conversation. He’s got a name, no matter how much coke you’ve done Princess When Maz offers up the light saber in the basement I figured Rey as a Skywalker was a Lockadini. I think that as we move into the next movies you’ll get less cliff notes cues and the story will stay within its own space. Abrams seemed to be a little too deferential in putting that in there but it didn’t detract from what I thought was an excellent movie.

    I agree, “our son” was a little too noticeable.  Abrams was saving the name reveal for the Han Solo death scene – too cute by half.

    #27588

    InThisTown
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    There’s little chance that the expository dialogue is on Abrams/Kasdan* IMO. That’s Disney and it’s more than likely so a billion screaming Chinamen don’t have their little commie brains confused as they are introduced to the series. Hopefully it won’t be needed going forward. I fully expect Johnson to write and direct the best Star Wars movie yet.

    *I’m not dinging him for shit like “That’s right R2 we’re going to the Dagobah system…I have a promise to keep to an old friend.” That’s on that dummy Lucas, clearly.

    #27590

    Kevin
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    Yeah, seeing it a second time, I can’t come to any other conclusion than Luke being her father. When Maz tells her that nobody is coming back to Jakku for her, but there is someone who she can go to, Rey says “Luke”. That’s the only way that makes any sense.

    #27591

    Kevin
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    There’s little chance that the expository dialogue is on Abrams/Kasdan* IMO. That’s Disney and it’s more than likely so a billion screaming Chinamen don’t have their little commie brains confused as they are introduced to the series. Hopefully it won’t be needed going forward. I fully expect Johnson to write and direct the best Star Wars movie yet.

    *I’m not dinging him for shit like “That’s right R2 we’re going to the Dagobah system…I have a promise to keep to an old friend.” That’s on that dummy Lucas, clearly.

    Watched Empire with the kids the other night, and laughed when Obi-Wan tells Yoda that “the boy is our only hope” just so Yoda can say, “No, there is another.” How the fuck doesn’t Obi-Wan not know that Leia is his sister?

    #27593

    Dan
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    There’s little chance that the expository dialogue is on Abrams/Kasdan* IMO. That’s Disney and it’s more than likely so a billion screaming Chinamen don’t have their little commie brains confused as they are introduced to the series. Hopefully it won’t be needed going forward. I fully expect Johnson to write and direct the best Star Wars movie yet. *I’m not dinging him for shit like “That’s right R2 we’re going to the Dagobah system…I have a promise to keep to an old friend.” That’s on that dummy Lucas, clearly.

    Watched Empire with the kids the other night, and laughed when Obi-Wan tells Yoda that “the boy is our only hope” just so Yoda can say, “No, there is another.” How the fuck doesn’t Obi-Wan not know that Leia is his sister?

    Retconning.  Lucas didn’t decide Leia was Luke’s sister until before ROTJ.

    #27594

    InThisTown
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    There’s little chance that the expository dialogue is on Abrams/Kasdan* IMO. That’s Disney and it’s more than likely so a billion screaming Chinamen don’t have their little commie brains confused as they are introduced to the series. Hopefully it won’t be needed going forward. I fully expect Johnson to write and direct the best Star Wars movie yet. *I’m not dinging him for shit like “That’s right R2 we’re going to the Dagobah system…I have a promise to keep to an old friend.” That’s on that dummy Lucas, clearly.

    Watched Empire with the kids the other night, and laughed when Obi-Wan tells Yoda that “the boy is our only hope” just so Yoda can say, “No, there is another.” How the fuck doesn’t Obi-Wan not know that Leia is his sister?

    Retconning. Lucas didn’t decide Leia was Luke’s sister until before ROTJ.

    I’ve heard that but who was the other? Some rando sister elsewhere? Even if we buy that why does it cut RIGHT to Leia at Bespin after that and then you have to account for their force mind meld to find Luke hanging from Cloud City which also lends credence to the idea they are siblings.

    The massive retcon there always seemed to be “from a certain point of view.”

    #27960

    Feejis
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    Saw it again yesterday – this time with the wife.

    missed the straw doll in the orange pilot suit in Rey’s hideout the first time. Granted Luke wasn’t the only guy in orange – maybe she’s a Porkins?

    #27962

    Dan
    Participant

    There’s little chance that the expository dialogue is on Abrams/Kasdan* IMO. That’s Disney and it’s more than likely so a billion screaming Chinamen don’t have their little commie brains confused as they are introduced to the series. Hopefully it won’t be needed going forward. I fully expect Johnson to write and direct the best Star Wars movie yet. *I’m not dinging him for shit like “That’s right R2 we’re going to the Dagobah system…I have a promise to keep to an old friend.” That’s on that dummy Lucas, clearly.

    Watched Empire with the kids the other night, and laughed when Obi-Wan tells Yoda that “the boy is our only hope” just so Yoda can say, “No, there is another.” How the fuck doesn’t Obi-Wan not know that Leia is his sister?

    Retconning. Lucas didn’t decide Leia was Luke’s sister until before ROTJ.

    I’ve heard that but who was the other? Some rando sister elsewhere? Even if we buy that why does it cut RIGHT to Leia at Bespin after that and then you have to account for their force mind meld to find Luke hanging from Cloud City which also lends credence to the idea they are siblings. The massive retcon there always seemed to be “from a certain point of view.”

    I think the idea is that Leia was special, and strong in the Force, but not necessarily a Skywalker or Luke’s sister to that point.  I’ll see if I can find where I read that.

    edit: Here is where I read it: http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/09/16/movie-legends-revealed-were-luke-leia-intended-to-be-twins-when-they-kissed-in-empire/ – not 100% definitive, but it seems likely from the various drafts of the Empire screenplays and comments from those who were involved.

     

    #27968

    InThisTown
    Participant

    http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/09/16/movie-legends-revealed-were-luke-leia-intended-to-be-twins-when-they-kissed-in-empire

    I read that draft years ago IIRC and Vader wasn’t even his father yet so it isn’t surprising that the sister thing wasn’t there.  Not sure that’s smoking gun.

     

    Ended up watching the special editions (we usually watch the DVDs of the unaltered) or whatever this weekend and it’s even worse than I remembered.  Ignoring stuff like Han shot first, nearly every CGI add in is an abortion.  Mos Eisley looks like shit.  The added dewbacks the stormtroopers ride are terrible.  Wolfman? Gone from the cantina.  Sy Snoodles is so fucking bad.  We’ve discussed force ghost Anakin on the board before.  That along with the cheering planets and lack of Yub Nub song make the end of it nearly unwatchable.  Lucas is a Hollywood celeb who can’t stop fucking up his face through plastic surgery.

    #27978

    Dan
    Participant

    http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/09/16/movie-legends-revealed-were-luke-leia-intended-to-be-twins-when-they-kissed-in-empire

    I read that draft years ago IIRC and Vader wasn’t even his father yet so it isn’t surprising that the sister thing wasn’t there. Not sure that’s smoking gun. Ended up watching the special editions (we usually watch the DVDs of the unaltered) or whatever this weekend and it’s even worse than I remembered. Ignoring stuff like Han shot first, nearly every CGI add in is an abortion. Mos Eisley looks like shit. The added dewbacks the stormtroopers ride are terrible. Wolfman? Gone from the cantina. Sy Snoodles is so fucking bad. We’ve discussed force ghost Anakin on the board before. That along with the cheering planets and lack of Yub Nub song make the end of it nearly unwatchable. Lucas is a Hollywood celeb who can’t stop fucking up his face through plastic surgery.

    The only decent CGI add-in was the shot of the X-wings on the way to the Death Star.  The other ones were crap.

    #28007

    God Shamgod
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    That along with the cheering planets and lack of Yub Nub song make the end of it nearly unwatchable.  Lucas is a Hollywood celeb who can’t stop fucking up his face through plastic surgery.

    I wish Lucas would figure out a way to buy a pair of jeans from 2015. For a guy w 4 billion, he has the WORST jean game in the biz.

    The next Star Wars, if it isn’t top 3 at best, i’ll be disappointed.

    What is our hopes for Rogue One? Is that supposed to be an intergalactic Platoon or Hamburger Hill?

     

     

    #28025

    InThisTown
    Participant

    I think it’s basically supposed to be a heist movie right?

    #28088

    God Shamgod
    Participant

    I think it’s basically supposed to be a heist movie right?

    That would be great. I have no expectations on that one.    If it can fall in between The Return of the Jedi and Ewok Adventure i’ll be satisfied.

    #28244

    Marty Nopointe
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    had the kid at Toys R Us earlier, that weird ship Leia arrives in is a B wing with a passenger compartment in the middle, at least according to the fine folks at Lego

    #28247

    Kevin
    Participant

    Both times I went to it people laughed at the scene where the Doctor is talking to Chewbacca as she treats his blaster wound.

    Like Perd says, it certainly has the cadence of a joke, but I have no idea why it’s funny.

    #28248

    Kevin
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    I read somewhere (apologies if one of you guys said it) that maybe R2D2 is under orders to wake up and produce the map if Rey ever shows up sniffing around and needs Force guidance.

    Like he’d prefer that she hidden away from all this, but if she’s going to get involved, well then she’s going to need a teacher (and dad?).

    #28254

    Major Intangibles
    Participant

    had the kid at Toys R Us earlier, that weird ship Leia arrives in is a B wing with a passenger compartment in the middle, at least according to the fine folks at Lego

    That makes the absence of A-Wings involved in the attack on (ugh) Starkiller Base all the more undefendable.

    Nothing will be saved. All will be lost. And our new onion-headed sad emoticon is unable to convey the depth of that loss. -10/22/25 (sic) Daily Thread

    #28258

    InThisTown
    Participant

    I read somewhere (apologies if one of you guys said it) that maybe R2D2 is under orders to wake up and produce the map if Rey ever shows up sniffing around and needs Force guidance.

    Like he’d prefer that she hidden away from all this, but if she’s going to get involved, well then she’s going to need a teacher (and dad?).

    I think Abrams gave some shit answer like “it just took him a while to wake up once Bb-8 got there” or something weird like that. So I guess it’s like the rest of the map that did it?

    #28980

    Major Intangibles
    Participant

    If the Maz character was going to be all CGI, I wish Abrams had gotten Diahann Carroll to voice her. She’s connected to the Star Wars canon previously.

    Nothing will be saved. All will be lost. And our new onion-headed sad emoticon is unable to convey the depth of that loss. -10/22/25 (sic) Daily Thread

    #29015

    BSF34
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    had the kid at Toys R Us earlier, that weird ship Leia arrives in is a B wing with a passenger compartment in the middle, at least according to the fine folks at Lego

    That makes the absence of A-Wings involved in the attack on (ugh) Starkiller Base all the more undefendable.

    It’s not the X(wings) and the A(wings), it’s the Finns and the Poes.

     

     

    Wait, what?

    #29035

    Kevin
    Participant

    My kid has been on a Star Wars kick since seeing the new movie, so he’s been demanding other light saber fights on youtube. Last night I showed hm Anankin/Obi Wan from Revenge of the Sith.

    It’s like a hundred times worse than I remembered it. The “I have the high ground, neener, neener” stuff is well-documented stupid, but there’s so much more.

    -The dialogue is as bad as any other scene in the prequels. “Only a Sith believe in absolutes!”

    -The background stuff is SO phony looking. Like a video game.

    -The way they jump around and swing the sabers at each other, absolutely nothing has any weight. They’re basically just floating around at each other.

    -There’s one point where they start karate kicking each other for some reason. So weird.

    -Then they try to push each other with the Force at the same time. It’s awful!

    -Then one of them throws the other onto the “Destroy the entire planet we’re on immediately” computer.

    -For some reason, the flowing lava destroys everything, except for some robots who want to float along the top and allow someone to stand on them, I guess?

    -And then these robots decide to float up to each other so the guys standing on top of them can fight some more?

    -Then they take the fight vertical because there’s some sort of huge space garage that not only doesn’t melt, but also floats. :lol:

    #29036

    InThisTown
    Participant

    I’ve never seen the whole thing out of principle but tried to look up Order 66 on YouTube the other day. I thought it had to be from the video game. Like no way is that the movie. I was wrong. What a piece of junk.

    #29607

    Kevin
    Participant

    Can I blame dorky adults collecting shit and keeping them “mint in box” for having to pay out the ass to an Amazon reseller to get my kid a Kylo Ren figure for his birthday?

    Because I’d like to.

    #29640

    Kevin
    Participant

    Also, for all their faults, you have to admire the First Order’s commitment to powering their killing machine with renewable solar energy.

    #29732

    Major Intangibles
    Participant

    Can I blame dorky adults collecting shit and keeping them “mint in box” for having to pay out the ass to an Amazon reseller to get my kid a Kylo Ren figure for his birthday? Because I’d like to.

    Why not just buy your son a Rey action figure, Kevin? She’s the star, you know.

    Nothing will be saved. All will be lost. And our new onion-headed sad emoticon is unable to convey the depth of that loss. -10/22/25 (sic) Daily Thread

    #29745

    Kevin
    Participant

    Can I blame dorky adults collecting shit and keeping them “mint in box” for having to pay out the ass to an Amazon reseller to get my kid a Kylo Ren figure for his birthday? Because I’d like to.

    Why not just buy your son a Rey action figure, Kevin? She’s the star, you know.

    Haven’t you been on he interwebs lately? According to the Internet Outrage Industrial Complex, they don’t make Rey toys.

    #29796

    InThisTown
    Participant

    Bad Idea Jeans –  Hey this Colin Trevorrow sucks, I’m sure the one guy who can make Ep 9 great is…George Lucas.   

     

    :blink: :blink:

    #29797

    BSF34
    Participant

    Bad Idea Jeans – Hey this Colin Trevorrow sucks, I’m sure the one guy who can make Ep 9 great is…George Lucas. :blink: :blink:

    :lol:

    Have these people calling for Lucas to direct IX forget how bad the prequels were?

    Wait, what?

    #29825

    Lebron
    Participant

    Is there a preferred book on the making of Star Wars or a recommended oral history?

    #30596

    Kevin
    Participant

    What an asshole! :lol:

    #30597

    Danny Duberstein
    Participant

    Well within your legal right to take a tire the Ron to him

    #30714

    InThisTown
    Participant

    Random thoughts I’ve had since it became Star Wars 24/7:

     

    33 or so years I’ve thought:

    1) “holding her is dangerous” was “only you’re as dangerous.”   Daine Jir is a mumblemouth.

    2) it was THE Tosche Station, not “Tosche Station” as in a town or settlement.

     

    Also why does Luke want to go the Imperial Academy?  I mean, that’s fine if he does, I’m not gonna fingerwag but then he’s super excited when he says “you know of the Rebellion against the Empire!?” like it’s his lifelong dream to fight them?  Weird.

     

    #30723

    Major Intangibles
    Participant

    Luke: “Hey force ghost Obi Wan, force ghost Yoda, force ghost Dad; there’s no history in my family of killing all the other Jedi trainees, is there? I’m going to go train padawan Ben now. I’m interpreting no answer as meaning ‘no’.”

    Nothing will be saved. All will be lost. And our new onion-headed sad emoticon is unable to convey the depth of that loss. -10/22/25 (sic) Daily Thread

    #30740

    InThisTown
    Participant

    We’ve seen the movie three times now and the lightsaber grab with the musical cue from the burning homestead from ANH into the Force Theme is, as the kids say, straight fire.

    #30758

    BSF34
    Participant

    Did one of you crackheads create the Bad Father Han Solo twitter account?

    Wait, what?

    #30823

    Dan
    Participant

    Random thoughts I’ve had since it became Star Wars 24/7: 33 or so years I’ve thought: 1) “holding her is dangerous” was “only you’re as dangerous.” Daine Jir is a mumblemouth. 2) it was THE Tosche Station, not “Tosche Station” as in a town or settlement. Also why does Luke want to go the Imperial Academy? I mean, that’s fine if he does, I’m not gonna fingerwag but then he’s super excited when he says “you know of the Rebellion against the Empire!?” like it’s his lifelong dream to fight them? Weird.

    I used to think the same thing about the Imperial Academy, but I think it was the Rebel Alliance Academy.  He wanted to go join his buddies (Biggs, etc) who were flying for the Rebels.

    I think a kid named Skywalker would have generated a few alarm bells if he applied to the Imperial Annapolis.   :lol:

    #30841

    InThisTown
    Participant

    Biggs went to the Imperial Academy didn’t he?

    #30849

    Dan
    Participant

    Biggs went to the Imperial Academy didn’t he?

    It’s kind of up in the air.  I guess one of the novels/comic books strongly implies it was more of a merchant marine type academy rather than the Imperial Naval Academy, or could have been a regional Academy vs. a centralized one for the whole Empire.

    I don’t think Lucas thought that one through.  A kid with the name Skywalker applying to an Imperial institution would have drawn some attention.  It also makes no sense that Ben didn’t change Luke’s last name as a baby to protect him.

    #31194

    Danny Duberstein
    Participant

    Taking Fauntleroy tomorrow afternoon.

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