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  • #26347

    Danny Duberstein
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    Forgot to ask this- anyone else get a “Ted Danson in SPR” vibe from the fat guy from Heroes being one of the pilots? :lol:

    He’s Abrams muse no?  I think they go back to kindergarten

    #26352

    Patrick Pass
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    Saw it. Thought it was great. What’s the theory on why Finn with zero experience was able to use light saber acceptably well? Mace Windu’s son/grandson?

    #26353

    Danny Duberstein
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    I just chalked it up to military training

    #26372

    Marty Nopointe
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    Did Carrie Fisher have a stroke somewhere along the way? I’ve seen her in interviews sounding odd, but man she’s had a long road to get here

    I was wondering the same thing

    #26375

    Marty Nopointe
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    I’m also thinking that Snoke is probably Yoda sized. Has a Napoleon complex which is why he appears much larger than everyone else during his hologram communications with Kylo.

    Agreed, might not even have a living body

    #26376

    Marty Nopointe
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    And some of the humor comes from something as simple as a character dreading giving bad news to Ren. …

    I don’t have a big love of R2D2, but putting him on mothballs and just waking up randomly was kind of odd.

    the stormtroopers who just stop and start walking the other way

    I assume R2 was waiting per instructions from Luke ‘Rey or some other young Jedi shows up then wake up and give them the map’

    I loved all the callbacks, the lightsaber stuck in the snow starts shaking from the force grab right out of the Wampa cave … I’ve got the feeling I won’t notice everything until I’ve watched it at home 4 or 5 times.

    Poe’s contact on Jakku – was it one of the Rebellion officers from Return of the Jedi or something?

    #26400

    Nashua Dad
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    Forgot to ask this- anyone else get a “Ted Danson in SPR” vibe from the fat guy from Heroes being one of the pilots? :lol:

    That’s Greg Grunberg. A childhood friend of Abrams.

    He’s JJ’s good luck charm. He puts him in all of his projects. Wasn’t he the Oceanic pilot in the Lost pilot? [/quote]
    He was. Just saw it today with the family, spoiler free for a week and everyone loved it. The last scene was the best, got the chills.

     

    #26434

    Marty Nopointe
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    Anyone think Poe’s escape was engineered by Ren? All of the elements are there, Ren knew (could even have caused) Finn’s doubt and desire to escape, Finn’s superiors knew he didn’t kill anyone (assume they could tell from the blaster inspection) yet after ‘re-education’ he’s assigned as the single guard for Ren’s prisoner – Ren could have forced that outside the military hierarchy. After the escape Poe is missing. His escape aids Ren’s plans. Those are Vader/Emperor actions from 1-6.

    The First Order wanted Poe dead, they would’ve gladly shot him instead of taking him prisoner and they tried to shoot down the TIE, but their motivations and Ren’s aren’t the same.

    There is likely some dark side equivalent of the Jedi mind trick, Ren did get the info from Poe, he could’ve left an implanted suggestion as well.

    #26446

    Florida Sox Fan
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    Just saw it in a theater full of people chilled out after Christmas brunch. Three generations all enjoyed thoroughly.

    Re Harrison Ford, I thought his age-worn face played well, as Han was supposed to have been through many trials and tribulations. Carrie Fisher, not so much.

    Can’t wait for VIII.

    #27085

    TwoTimes
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    I’m nowhere the Star Wars buff a lot of you people are but couldn’t Rey just as easily be Han and Leia’s kid also?  I guess I feel like it’s too easy and obvious for her to be Luke’s daughter, plus the Rey/Kylo thing would kind of mirror the Luke/Leia thing from 4 through 6.

    #27115

    rrsafety
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    Ditto to much that has been said.

    I have a schoolboy crush on Rey. She is mighty fine.

    #27117

    InThisTown
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    I’d be shocked if she was a Solo. I don’t think that’s the case at all. Bastard Leia kid maybe. It that wasn’t a mom-daughter interaction. I mean I’m sure at some point it was considered but Luke makes more sense. Unless that was a huge, cheap misdirect. If we’re going not Luke’s daughter I like either Obi or Palp’s granddaughter. Either of those choices would be interesting but still I’m not sure the former would have much of a dramatic impact and her bearing is not that of a dark sider.

    #27126

    InThisTown
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    This is a pretty good summary of all the potential questions that have been raised.

     

    http://io9.gizmodo.com/33-questions-we-desperately-want-answered-after-star-wa-1748953034

    #27137

    BSF34
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    I’d be shocked if she was a Solo. I don’t think that’s the case at all. Bastard Leia kid maybe. It that wasn’t a mom-daughter interaction. I mean I’m sure at some point it was considered but Luke makes more sense. Unless that was a huge, cheap misdirect. If we’re going not Luke’s daughter I like either Obi or Palp’s granddaughter. Either of those choices would be interesting but still I’m not sure the former would have much of a dramatic impact and her bearing is not that of a dark sider.

    More and more stuff I see on the inta-web think Rey’s Ob-Wan’s granddaughter.

    Wait, what?

    #27145

    Feejis
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    Can’t be Leia’s kid. Not the way those scenes were played. Even if she had a secret kid that Han didn’t know about, SHE would have reacted accordingly when she saw that kid for the first time in forever.

    #27146

    Larry Legend
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    After a couple weeks, I’m solidly in the Luke’s daughter camp. The end scene of the movie loses a lot of importance if we figure out in VIII that she’s Obi Wan granddaughter.  With everything else in that movie somewhat predictable, I can’t imagine they were going to make such a drastic deke on this one.

    #27151

    InThisTown
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    After a couple weeks, I’m solidly in the Luke’s daughter camp. The end scene of the movie loses a lot of importance if we figure out in VIII that she’s Obi Wan granddaughter. With everything else in that movie somewhat predictable, I can’t imagine they were going to make such a drastic deke on this one.

    It really does undermine that last scene. I mean, it’s still cool but it loses its dramatic impact to a degree. I don’t hate the Obi Wan theory at all, it’s preferable to any others that are out there by a wide margin.

    It is kind of funny though – “you see Rey was hidden away on Jakku just like Obi Wan was in exile on Tattooine!” Or, you mean, she was hidden away on Jakku just like her fucking father was on Tattooine? Which is a much more direct comparison.

    I just can’t ignore JJ saying that the new movies are a Skywalker story. I also think making her Obi’s granddaughter presents some difficult force ghost problems.

    #27161

    Kevin
    Participant

    I’m convinced that nothing sounds dorkier when talking about Star Wars than the term “Force ghost”. :lol:

    I always get the douche hills reading or writing it.

    #27231

    Chief
    Participant

    After a couple weeks, I’m solidly in the Luke’s daughter camp. The end scene of the movie loses a lot of importance if we figure out in VIII that she’s Obi Wan granddaughter. With everything else in that movie somewhat predictable, I can’t imagine they were going to make such a drastic deke on this one.

    Just to play Devil’s Advocate:  the importance could very well just be the re-emergence of Luke (especially for the average moviegoer).  Didnt we all have goosebumps in real tie w/o thinking about whether Rey was Luke’s daughter?  I know I did.

    And the impact of the scene will have worn away in 18 (or 36) months when/if we find out Rey’s bloodlines.  The only ones who will feel “cheated” will be the extreme fanboys.  And anyone who watched Lost knows how much Abrams loves a good swerve.

    #27235

    InThisTown
    Participant

    Abrams had nothing to do with Lost after the pilot and a couple of episodes after that.

    It has nothing to do with feeling cheated — it is about having an emotional rug pulled out from under the viewer, because the implication is clearly — this is his daughter. It retroactively cheapens the moment by saying “guess what it was REALLY this” that you saw.

    #27252

    Feejis
    Participant

    I think you also have to look at this franchise and how it has been handled all along. It’s not a mystery or suspense-related series really.  The Vader-Luke thing was a big reveal but it didn’t really build up to that with people wondering if they were related. It just happened.

    Maybe this group will be different, but I think some folks are conditioned to look at the deeper hidden meaning when in reality, it’s relatively straightforward storytelling.

    #27255

    rrsafety
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    I didn’t get the “she must his daughter vibe” from the ending. I got the feeling that she is capable of becoming the next great Jedi and that is why she was hidden away – whatever her family story might be.

    That said, Obi’s grand or great grandchild would be cool.

    #27258

    InThisTown
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    The vibe was the entire movie and the ending. Whether or not she is is a matter of debate. But I’m not sure what movie you watched if you didn’t think that was the implication.

    #27262

    Dan
    Participant

    The vibe was the entire movie and the ending. Whether or not she is is a matter of debate. But I’m not sure what movie you watched if you didn’t think that was the implication.

    Agreed.  If she weren’t Luke’s daughter, then what sense would it make to send Rey to Luke’s location after the map was completed?  The entire Resistance and First Order are desperately looking for him, and Leia sends Rey, Chewie, and R2D2.

    She’s Luke’s daughter.  These movies aren’t narratively complex.  Everyone’s looking for a twist, but that isn’t Star Wars.

    #27263

    Dan
    Participant

    Saw it again today with the boy and enjoyed it more the second time around.  The Han Solo death is shocking even when you know it’s coming.

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