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  • #115624

    InThisTown
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    I liked it more than I thought I would. As of now, TFA was better. Sooo much more fat in this one.

    Liked:
    – not the biggest Yoda fan, he’s great obviously but I hardly put him at the top. But that was a great great sequence. The most emotionally resonant IMO.
    – There were two suns on Ach To at the end? Did they only show that from Luke’s POV? I hope so because I don’t recall seeing two in earlier parts so if it was some hallucination to back…hoooome – well done.
    – see ya around kid
    – people will hate the end but I found it awesomely important, even if it doesn’t pop up in 9. Great callback to other humble origins.
    – porgs rule
    – R2 hologram was sweet

    Didn’t like:
    – almost too much humor
    – Luke’s death was nice, I just didn’t feel much, maybe because I knew it was coming thanks to Calla’s buddy.
    – Snoke was way cooler than TFA and that’s how you’re gonna do him?
    – Finn’s entire storyline sucked especially the chick
    – Leia’s Force float is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen in a movie.
    – Laura Dern

    #115625

    InThisTown
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    Also it did not feel like Star Wars. It was good. Just weird. Get me JJ.

    #115628

    chicowalker
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    Had leia ever used the force before, besides {mazz} feeling? Now she can fly?  And how did they not kill her off? Do they have a tupac-esque cache of fisher to use to cobble together another movie?

    jimmy smits corrolary- don’t cast name actors where they aren’t necessary. I saw the broad from big little lies and Fenster last night

    #115629

    chicowalker
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    Also- Luke’s island is meant to be this unfindable rock at the ends of the universe…but he has a gaggle of wisecracking maids? The fuck out of here

    #115630

    InThisTown
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    They were caretakers of the Jedi temple for 1000s of generations.

    #115633

    Mark
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    I started drifting to wondering if Dern had dyed the carpet to match the drapes.

    I thought the transport scene was about 3 times too long. Probably a bunch of other nitpicky things, but the jokes and asides were are an homage to things I did’t like in the original movies.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by  Mark.
    #115634

    InThisTown
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    They didn’t want to work her death into the movie. They have publicly said she won’t be in 9.

    #115636

    Callahardfoul
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    The first line of the spoiler e-mail I received:

    Kylo kills Snoke. Snoke is nobody. Learn nothing about him. Luke sorta dies but left unclear.

     

    Honestly sorry if my post spoiled it.   :-(

     

     

    #115637

    InThisTown
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    I figured anyway. It wasn’t ambiguous though. He will surely be around though.

    #115638

    Larry Legend
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    Too much of that Finn storyline. I like the Finn character, but JJ did a lot better job making us give a shit about him than Johnson did. Maybe if they spend 30 minutes less in the Monte Carlo of the stars, it would have helped.

    #115640

    InThisTown
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    Finn is a great character and you are correct.

    #115641

    InThisTown
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    Is every pilot in the rebel fleet a broad?

    #115643

    Larry Legend
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    The first line of the spoiler e-mail I received: Kylo kills Snoke. Snoke is nobody. Learn nothing about him. Luke sorta dies but left unclear. Honestly sorry if my post spoiled it. 🙁

    The Snoke Experience is kind of weird. How does this guy become the most powerful Sith in the galaxy and then he ded.  It made sense for him to die early, but how much can they really spend time explaining that story in IX? It’s not Pine Barrens, but I kind of see it as a loose end.

    I don’t take issue with Luke’s death. I would’ve appreciated more build up to that moment, but after that incredible scene with Kylo and Luke, it might’ve been a real challenge to make that transition.

    Still curious how they tackle the Carrie Fisher situation in IX. I thought she’d confront Kylo when they were waiting for the Falcon.  Hmm…

     

    #115645

    Larry Legend
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    Is every pilot in the rebel fleet a broad?

    It’s a Lauer situation. The Porkins stuff finally went public so the Rebel fleet looks like the Today Show/CBS This Morning set.

    #115646

    InThisTown
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    <pushes nerd glasses up> Snoke is not a Sith.

    That’s a big one though. I mean, I guess if we think about it we got zero backstory on the Emperor (Christ we didn’t know what Palpatine or Sidious was) so it makes sense. They aren’t making this shit for people who care deeply about backstory, that’s pretty clear at this point.

    I really like the very end even more today.

    #115648

    Larry Legend
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    <pushes nerd glasses up> Snoke is not a Sith. That’s a big one though. I mean, I guess if we think about it we got zero backstory on the Emperor (Christ we didn’t know what Palpatine or Sidious was) so it makes sense. They aren’t making this shit for people who care deeply about backstory, that’s pretty clear at this point. I really like the very end even more today.

    Clearly it was not his doing that connected Rey and Kylo, but he did have some dark side abilities.  Hell we had an almost 3 hour movie and it was hard to fit all of it in.

    We are supposed to think Snoke led Kylo down that path, but perhaps that ambiguity as to what led Kylo down that path is necessary to set up how committed he is/was to the dark side.

    #115651

    chicowalker
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    I was starting to get a “Lisa Kudrow playing two roles on Friends” vibe after a while w/the Kylo-Rey mindmeld

    #115668

    InThisTown
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    My son and brother are about to duel for the fate of the galaxy- you guys ready to bounce?

    #115681

    I just saw it, and kept myself spoiler free as much as possible in 2017. I agree it was too jokey, I enjoyed most of them but if they cut 25% of them it would have been better. I thought it was going to end with Admiral Laura Dern kamakazing the Imperial flag ship. How the hell did Benicio Del Toro (whose character I liked) know about the plan to evacuate the last Resistance ship? Rey, Finn, and Rose could have all escaped to Crait – with the rest of the resistance, just as Admiral Dern had planned. Then start Episode 9.

    Even though I would have ended the movie before the battle of Crait, that stuff was good, except for the rebel attack on the walkers. I knew Finn wasn’t going to die, but Rose smashing into him was an insane way to try to save him. It’s not just like you’re physically pushing someone out of the way, you crashed your freakin’ spaceship into his.

    Given Carrie Fisher’s untimely demise, I think they should have re-cut it so that she dies early on in the film. They probably didn’t want to lose out on the Luke and Leia reunion, but Luke was only there in spirit anyway. They could have had her appear Yoda like to Luke and they could have had the same conversation.

    My three ups and three downs:
    Ups:
    The Luke/Ben/Rey/Snoke plots.
    I liked the Del Toro scenes and character, I’m just not sure how he knew about the evacuation plan.
    The idea that the Skywalkers aren’t the be all and end all of the Force.
    (Up #4: As a man over 50, I find Laura Dern is extremely hot for a woman over 50).

    Downs:
    Leia surviving the vacuum of space – even the Force has its limits.
    Too much time wasted in inter-galactic Monte Carlo. We get it, arms dealers are not concerned about the greater good.
    Rey’s parents being no ones from nowhere bothers me. That may contradict with my third up, but I thought we were building up to something in The Force Awakens.

    #115682

    One more thing… We’ll probably never get the backstory, but how did Snoke and Ben ever meet up while Luke was training him (or prior to that point)? They kept referencing how Snoke had influenced him to go to the dark side, but how?

    And another thing, why did Po and Rey never meet before? They were both at the same resistance base at the end of The Force Awakens, seems like they would have met up before Rey and Chewy head out to find Luke.

    #115683

    BSF34
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    Just got back from seeing the movie. Probably could’ve shortened it about 15-20 minutes but I still really liked it a lot. And I think Ren was lying when he said Rey’s parents were nobodies.

    Wait, what?

    #115687

    Fred West Lynn
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    Fully agree with BSF34’s last point. The Rey’s parents assertion by Kylo has quite the stench of red herring.

    Things I liked:
    – the fact that the three keys heroes still don’t know each other all that well, esp. Rey and Poe.
    – that Finn is confused about life when he has time to reflect, but pretty cool when he has action to perform (fight vs. Capt. Phasma)
    – the overall look of the damn thing
    – pissy Luke
    – the Tarentino-esque battle in Snoke’s Red Room
    – the level of humor. I took it to be like those grim wisecracks in WWII flicks
    – crystal cats
    -At-Ats

    Seriously, I liked it a lot. The Luke-Yoda scene was terrific. My only disappointment has been mentioned earlier: why spend 1 and 1/2 movies building up Snoke to toss him away? What a waste. Maybe he’ll come back with his new apprentcice, Darth Maul, in #9.

    #115690

    InThisTown
    Participant

    The parentage thing is currently irrelevant to speculate on. It could be changed in 9 but Johnson 200% means it to be the real answer. I think it’s a binary choice and since they have decided to thread in romance, she ain’t a Skywalker. (And that would be too hard to explain at this point anyway)

    That’s actually a major part of my gripe. The lightsaber toss retroactively cuts the balls off of the fantastic ending of TFA.

    #115704

    Kevin
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    It redeemed itself at the end, but man it dragged in the middle. The casino shit especially. And everything on Jedi Island that wasn’t Rey and Kylo communing was pretty pointless.

    I think I disagree with everyone on Luke and Yoda. I kept thinking “I should be feeling something here, but I don’t.” I found myself hoping Hayden Christensen showed up.

    #115817

    Feejis
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    Is every pilot in the rebel fleet a broad?

    It’s a Lauer situation. The Porkins stuff finally went public so the Rebel fleet looks like the Today Show/CBS This Morning set.

    Glad someone else said it. I wouldn’t say it bothers me because this is a movie about people in outer space but it was distracting how overboard they went with the diversity casting. Doesn’t hurt anyone but definitely noticeable.

    I liked it but didn’t love it and I think they did a bit of a disservice to the Rey character as she was very limited in this one compared to before. The mind-meld stuff was good though.

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